That’s because you were the category 1 criminal, the one everyone hopes for and the foolishly plan for. Any objection to their plan especially threat of physical harm is a deterrent, and usually evidenced of human presence is enough of a deterrent. Versus cat 2 and cat 3 criminals that are willing to play hardball and get dirty to achieve their nefarious activities. Cat 3 are the ones willing to die before they stop.

Haz, I desperately want to attend a tactical shotgun course. There are few offerings in central Illinoisistan. Most close involve an 8hr drive and multiple overnight stays, thus exponentially raising the cost of this endeavor.
I clicked on the author’s school website ( highlighted in article) only to discover he doesn’t offer any shotgun training!
WTHeck !¿

Nice only ever did 2 1 day trainings with a bit under half that many shells. Didn’t have as many cool scenarios but loading under stress was fun to learn and develop as a skill. I didn’t have the sore shoulder issue but that could be being a bit younger or the door breacher muzzle device the 870 came with at the time. Either way looking forward to doing a few courses at SIG this year.

I once took a 4-day tactical shotgun course. By the end of Day 2, I was astonished at how much I realized I *didn’t* previously know about shotguns, despite having owned & fired them for many years prior. Day 3 went thru room/hallway clearing, tactical OODA, and then high-stress drills (instructors doing unexpected things to distract you). Day 4 was vehicles & hostages, and that afternoon wrapped it all up with the skills test for certification. Almost 500 shells made Mr. Ibuprofen my temporary best friend until my chest/shoulder toughened up by the end of the course.

Out of 23 students who started on Day 1, enough kept dropping out (exhaustion, soreness) so that there were only 7 of us remaining to line up for the final skills test. Only three of us passed…first and second place were younger guys with nice autoloaders. I was the third, and *barely* passed with my pump model. It was tough, but of all the courses and certifications I’ve achieved over the years, it’s one of the top two that meant the most to me.

A good shotgun, a good CQB AR, a good deer rifle, and a good handgun.

I hate to admit it, but the Joe method worked on us. Granted, we were somewhat rowdy kids, and not hardened criminals. Coming out on the deck, and taking one shot with the shotgun made us skedaddle.

Meant as a reply to Jeff in MS.

Bingo. Done it myself and saw it happen in a bar.

The bad guys are not intelligent or highly trained and organized. They will scamper, mostly, when meeting serious resistance. And those that don’t scamper you will need the power of the shotgun to overcome the drugs in their system.

Odd how I have been shot at (or close enough to the intended target to not matter) on more than one occasion yet was never in a situation where I could reasonably shoot back (retreating, civilians in the way, couldn’t get PID) yet you have had to light up multiple bad guys multiple times…….. remind me to double check what general area you live in before I retire and move out of NY to avoid for my safety 😉

I’ve had several over time. That home invasion happened where we used to live.

The condensed version: It was a nice area, homes started at $300,000.00 and went up from there. Was quiet, friendly…. until the (at the time) democrat county commission said the area was too nice not to have an ‘affordable housing complex’ built on a piece of county land adjacent our ~300 home ‘community’. So the county commission got the state involved and the (then democrat) ‘powers that be that decided such things for development’ also though it would be nice to have ‘affordable housing’ for the ‘Justice Impacted Individuals in the gangs that infested the city right across the state line’. So it came to pass, the ‘affordable housing’ was built despite the best efforts and thousands of dollars and lawyers to prevent it by the residents of our little community. And lo and behold guess who moved in when it was finished – the ‘Justice Impacted Individuals in the gangs that infested the city right across the state line’, with their relatives and baby-mommas.

Well, to make a long story shorter … there goes the neighbor hood.

It was horrible. It was an easy day if there were just several assaults and a home invasion.

Hold on you had a second dgu?