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		By: Joe Bagadonuts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Bagadonuts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There was a big scandal in Philadelphia a while back where a bunch of thugs were walking down the street attacking people as they went.   There were multiple 911 calls that only confused the operators, who completely flubbed it.   Eventually a kid was killed.  Its been suspected that the 911 jobs are political jobs and the employees know they won&#039;t get fired for anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a big scandal in Philadelphia a while back where a bunch of thugs were walking down the street attacking people as they went.   There were multiple 911 calls that only confused the operators, who completely flubbed it.   Eventually a kid was killed.  Its been suspected that the 911 jobs are political jobs and the employees know they won&#8217;t get fired for anything.</p>
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		By: Sam I Am		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam I Am]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 23:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Waiting for 911 assistance, and police response is just the price of living in our democracy. Some you win, some you lose, some get rained out, some shouldn&#039;t have even been scheduled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting for 911 assistance, and police response is just the price of living in our democracy. Some you win, some you lose, some get rained out, some shouldn&#8217;t have even been scheduled.</p>
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		By: randy bauer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randy bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 20:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in a semi-rural area and police wait times here are generally long. But there is very little crime. Why? Because virtually everyone around here is armed. Practice is common, as shooting near ones home is legal. Perhaps the rest of the country could take note.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a semi-rural area and police wait times here are generally long. But there is very little crime. Why? Because virtually everyone around here is armed. Practice is common, as shooting near ones home is legal. Perhaps the rest of the country could take note.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 09:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[another sneaky spammer - &#039;Alpheus&#039; has a link in his name to a web site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another sneaky spammer &#8211; &#8216;Alpheus&#8217; has a link in his name to a web site.</p>
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		By: Sailorcurt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sailorcurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 01:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Only five percent of customers would be willing to wait up to 15 minutes for their order&quot;

The &quot;Fast&quot; part of &quot;fast food&quot; is why people will voluntarily endure the barely edible confections offered by those types of establishments in the first place.  If the &quot;fast&quot; is as illusory as the &quot;food&quot; part...what&#039;s the point?

As far as 911 is concerned, the general consensus for as long as I&#039;ve been alive has been &quot;When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.&quot;

Or as a long retired gun blogger once put it:  &quot;Your safety and security is your responsibility, the constables are only there to mark where the bodies ended up.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only five percent of customers would be willing to wait up to 15 minutes for their order&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;Fast&#8221; part of &#8220;fast food&#8221; is why people will voluntarily endure the barely edible confections offered by those types of establishments in the first place.  If the &#8220;fast&#8221; is as illusory as the &#8220;food&#8221; part&#8230;what&#8217;s the point?</p>
<p>As far as 911 is concerned, the general consensus for as long as I&#8217;ve been alive has been &#8220;When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or as a long retired gun blogger once put it:  &#8220;Your safety and security is your responsibility, the constables are only there to mark where the bodies ended up.&#8221;</p>
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		By: WhyTheLongFaceJohnKerry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhyTheLongFaceJohnKerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 01:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The police arrive just in time to draw a chalk outline around your cold corpse.  Ummm, no thanks.  I&#039;ll make sure the perp is the one who gets the silhouette.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police arrive just in time to draw a chalk outline around your cold corpse.  Ummm, no thanks.  I&#8217;ll make sure the perp is the one who gets the silhouette.</p>
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		By: Alpheus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alpheus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 00:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/you-dont-need-a-gun-they-said-just-call-911-they-said/comment-page-1/#comment-38118&quot;&gt;Ken Mitchell&lt;/a&gt;.

Heck, this is as true for ambulance and firefighters as it is for cops!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/you-dont-need-a-gun-they-said-just-call-911-they-said/comment-page-1/#comment-38118">Ken Mitchell</a>.</p>
<p>Heck, this is as true for ambulance and firefighters as it is for cops!</p>
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		By: Ken Mitchell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 23:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the ancient question. If you call for a cop, and call for a pizza, which one will arrive first? 

We all have to be OUR OWN first responders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the ancient question. If you call for a cop, and call for a pizza, which one will arrive first? </p>
<p>We all have to be OUR OWN first responders.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 22:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/you-dont-need-a-gun-they-said-just-call-911-they-said/comment-page-1/#comment-38096&quot;&gt;Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

‘You Don’t Need a Gun,’ They Said…’Just Call 911,’

A real story. Happened about two years ago to someone I know. Due to the recognizable name and location, to protect their anonymity I&#039;m not going to give the real names and location or date;

It was almost 8 AM Saturday morning. Joe had just arrived home from handling an overnight emergency at work. He was welcomed home with hugs from his three young daughters and his wife Cheryl, his young daughters eager to get moving &#039;cause Joe had promised them a day out with shopping too. And although tired and wanting to do nothing but go to sleep Joe had promised the girls a day out this Saturday, so Joe showered and changed clothes and off the family goes to breakfast. So it was a day out... breakfast, a movie the girls wanted to see, late lunch, and then to a soccer game to watch his 14 year old daughters latest crush-she-denied-having play, a little shopping, then some lite dinner, a trip to a local Urban Air Trampoline park for the kids, and then home. It was a little after 10 PM and Joe was exhausted by the time he opened the door and stepped inside while Cheryl and the girls got their shopping loot from the car... but he wasn&#039;t exhausted any more when he saw the three guys in the hallway and two of them charged at him with machetes. Joe drew and fired at point blank range barley managing to get the gun pointed at one of them before he fired. It had all happened so quickly but he hit one of them and put him down. Joe was barely inside the door, the door still open behind him as he backed away firing and out the door while hitting another bad guy who had just opened up a pretty big gash to the bone on Joes arm with his machete, then Joe while backing away tripped back and fell back out the door. 

Cheryl, hearing the commotion and shots and seeing Joe back out the door bleeding and falling, immediately executed their pre-planned and practiced &#039;danger close&#039; plan - get the kids out of harms way and engage the threat to cover their escape. The kids were sent running down the street to neighbors homes as planned, the 14 year old herding her 9 and 10 year sisters out of harms way and down the street while calling 911 on her cell phone. Cheryl moved to help Joe and engage the threat. Drawing her firearm she shot one of the attackers, one Joe had already shot, as the attacker lunged through the door towards her husband, swinging the machete and bearing down on Joe who is bleeding badly from a previous slash in the initial encounter inside. But Joe had come back up and fired as Cheryl fired. The bad guy fell and wasn&#039;t moving any more. 

Total time of incident: By home security surveillance - less than 25 seconds from when Joe opened the door to Cheryl shooting the one bad guy.

Police arrived due to the 911 call, ~8 minutes after it was over. Two bad guys dead, the third had been slightly wounded and ran but got caught a couple of days later.

‘You Don’t Need a Gun,’ They Said…’Just Call 911,’]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/you-dont-need-a-gun-they-said-just-call-911-they-said/comment-page-1/#comment-38096">Dude</a>.</p>
<p>‘You Don’t Need a Gun,’ They Said…’Just Call 911,’</p>
<p>A real story. Happened about two years ago to someone I know. Due to the recognizable name and location, to protect their anonymity I&#8217;m not going to give the real names and location or date;</p>
<p>It was almost 8 AM Saturday morning. Joe had just arrived home from handling an overnight emergency at work. He was welcomed home with hugs from his three young daughters and his wife Cheryl, his young daughters eager to get moving &#8217;cause Joe had promised them a day out with shopping too. And although tired and wanting to do nothing but go to sleep Joe had promised the girls a day out this Saturday, so Joe showered and changed clothes and off the family goes to breakfast. So it was a day out&#8230; breakfast, a movie the girls wanted to see, late lunch, and then to a soccer game to watch his 14 year old daughters latest crush-she-denied-having play, a little shopping, then some lite dinner, a trip to a local Urban Air Trampoline park for the kids, and then home. It was a little after 10 PM and Joe was exhausted by the time he opened the door and stepped inside while Cheryl and the girls got their shopping loot from the car&#8230; but he wasn&#8217;t exhausted any more when he saw the three guys in the hallway and two of them charged at him with machetes. Joe drew and fired at point blank range barley managing to get the gun pointed at one of them before he fired. It had all happened so quickly but he hit one of them and put him down. Joe was barely inside the door, the door still open behind him as he backed away firing and out the door while hitting another bad guy who had just opened up a pretty big gash to the bone on Joes arm with his machete, then Joe while backing away tripped back and fell back out the door. </p>
<p>Cheryl, hearing the commotion and shots and seeing Joe back out the door bleeding and falling, immediately executed their pre-planned and practiced &#8216;danger close&#8217; plan &#8211; get the kids out of harms way and engage the threat to cover their escape. The kids were sent running down the street to neighbors homes as planned, the 14 year old herding her 9 and 10 year sisters out of harms way and down the street while calling 911 on her cell phone. Cheryl moved to help Joe and engage the threat. Drawing her firearm she shot one of the attackers, one Joe had already shot, as the attacker lunged through the door towards her husband, swinging the machete and bearing down on Joe who is bleeding badly from a previous slash in the initial encounter inside. But Joe had come back up and fired as Cheryl fired. The bad guy fell and wasn&#8217;t moving any more. </p>
<p>Total time of incident: By home security surveillance &#8211; less than 25 seconds from when Joe opened the door to Cheryl shooting the one bad guy.</p>
<p>Police arrived due to the 911 call, ~8 minutes after it was over. Two bad guys dead, the third had been slightly wounded and ran but got caught a couple of days later.</p>
<p>‘You Don’t Need a Gun,’ They Said…’Just Call 911,’</p>
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		By: Gus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 22:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And the questions they ask... good grief... the operators get infinitely more details than necessary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the questions they ask&#8230; good grief&#8230; the operators get infinitely more details than necessary.</p>
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