Seriously, she makes a good point. It reminds me of the advice to not instinctively try to catch something you drop (like an open knife).

@ fppf: I was talking about the ‘anti-gun’ crowd and not about anyone here including you.
Note: ” The anti-gun crowd constantly preach “call 911”.”

indeed. think it through. good advice, too often ignored.

no one here is saying just call 911. cars can hit you too so please carry concealed, wear a seatbelt, and walk between traffic and your kids (even if the last two mean losing a few milliseconds on your hypothetical
draw). there are multiple risks in life.

“…statistically speaking, they are far more likely to be killed by a motor vehicle.”

A non-criminal person is more than 1,500 times more likely to be hit by a car, even as a pedestrian, than they are to be shot accidently or negligently by an armed (law abiding) citizen even if the armed citizen has to use the gun in self defense or defense of others in public areas or home no matter if permitless carry or not.

But in permitless carry areas only its a little over 1,600 more likely a non-criminal person would be hit by a car, even as a pedestrian, than they are to be shot accidently or negligently by an armed (law abiding) citizen even if the armed citizen has to use the gun in self defense or defense of others in public areas or home.

Grow up, face the facts of life and get prepared thus be prepared.

yep. would also be easier to draw in car without a seatbelt. lets not forget there are other dangers in life than getting shot at.

very well written post 40! people should definitely carry every day! never disputed that. simply dont agree with the recommendation to put kids closer to vehicle traffic just because it may keep the dominate hand free. no one is disputing the need to carry. yet we can all agree getting shot is less likely than hit by a car.

“I never thought it would happen to me!” thought briefly by every victim of a violent crime as they lay bleeding or raped or dying.

Seriously, this reminds me of the rabid anti-gun lady in our local area. She worked with national anti-gun groups, had even worked with Watts. People here locally had many encounters with her, she was well known and did everything she could to make gun owners as harassed as possible here locally. Lived and preached anti-gun. Her claim was also “its not going to happen, the odds are so low of happening that ya don’t need a gun, just call 911.” she would try to convince people of that not knowing some of those she was trying to convince of that had been victims of violent crimes and only survived because they had a gun to use to defend their selves.

Then one night, this anti-gun lady was attacked by several thugs. Almost killed her, doc told her one more blow to the head would have killed her. Anyway, it just so happened that a local gun owner, carries EDC, made a wrong turn and as he passed down the street he saw her being attacked and came to her aid and used his firearm to defend her against these thugs. She woke up in the hospital a few days later, her last memory before passing out was a stranger firing his gun at the thugs.

Her first stop out of the hospital was a local gun store where she walked in, still with bandages on, and said she wanted to buy guns and ammo and accessories. The folks in the gun store stared at her shocked, were silent, they all knew who she was, had past harassment from her and encounters with her, they knew how rabidly anti-gun she was, and it shocked them into silence when now here she is wanting to buy guns. But, the staff helped her anyway. She bought a few different guns that day, an AR among them, ammo, accessories. Everyone in our local gun community had heard what happened to her, and were glad some of those thugs were dead and the rest now arrested as they had been a problem in the area.

While buying guns she asked where she could get the type of training that would, basically, help her kill bad guys if she were ever victimized by their violence again. She was directed to a local range where classes were taught by an retired navy seal (the range owner) and his volunteer group of active duty and retired special forces and police officers who teach a tactical defense course. Its the same place I got my training from and you will learn how to engage and overcome and defeat the bad guys. Even they were shocked when she showed up, but, they entered her in a class anyway and trained her.

Today, she is a staunch supporter of the second amendment and has 80’ish guns in her collection, AR and AK platforms too. Never goes anywhere not armed. It took a dose of reality to knock that made up anti-gun agenda out of her, it took a dose of reality to knock that “it can’t happen to me” fantasy out of her.

She teaches classes sometimes at a local range. Turns out shes a great cook too with a flair for deserts, she shows up at the range and brings food for our weekly group gathering.