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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/osd-guns-are-for-shooting-people-that-should-be-accepted-not-celebrated/comment-page-1/#comment-8162&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

In 2023: Of the reported (to police - nation wide, police not arriving in time to stop the attacker in home break in situations despite 911 being called) 230,000 violent sexual assaults intended by the attacker - 38% of the female victims (actual biological females) were armed with a firearm and successfully employed DGU and escaped rape and serious injury. Of the rest, 2% escaped rape and serious injury by managing to get away and run away and the rest were either raped or seriously injured and some killed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/osd-guns-are-for-shooting-people-that-should-be-accepted-not-celebrated/comment-page-1/#comment-8162">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>In 2023: Of the reported (to police &#8211; nation wide, police not arriving in time to stop the attacker in home break in situations despite 911 being called) 230,000 violent sexual assaults intended by the attacker &#8211; 38% of the female victims (actual biological females) were armed with a firearm and successfully employed DGU and escaped rape and serious injury. Of the rest, 2% escaped rape and serious injury by managing to get away and run away and the rest were either raped or seriously injured and some killed.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 09:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/osd-guns-are-for-shooting-people-that-should-be-accepted-not-celebrated/comment-page-1/#comment-8153&quot;&gt;Lynyrd S&lt;/a&gt;.

and, sadly, some &#039;men&#039; need to be put six feet in a hole. Its the reality of the world we live in.

But take heart, in the 1.3 million (or more) valid defensive gun uses annually it becomes necessary to actually pull the trigger less than ~ 5% of the time (mostly because the bad guys run off when they see the gun) and out of those less than 1% of the bad guys die.

Ratio wise deaths from car accidents and medical malpractice and defective glass table tops compared to bad guys being actually shot that&#039;s 2,500 (deaths from those other things) to 0.03 (bad guys die as a result of being shot by the defender) -- 2,500:0.03.

Ratio wise a bad guy is more likely to die as a result of car accidents and medical malpractice and defective glass table tops than they are to die as a result of being shot in a valid defensive gun use.

The average innocent person is 1,500 times more likely to be run over by a car than they are to be accidentally or negligently shot by a law abiding person with a gun even if that person uses that gun in defensive gun use in the home or in public spaces.

In permitless (e.g. constitutional carry) carry areas only, the average innocent person is more than 1,600 times more likely to be run over by a car than they are to be accidentally or negligently shot by a law abiding person with a gun even if the law abiding person uses that gun in defensive gun use in the home or in public spaces.

A defender person (trained or not) who uses defensive gun use in an imminent bad guy deadly force threat situation has more than a 94% chance of surviving the incident without injury. A person defended by a person with a firearm has more than a 94% chance of chance of surviving the incident without injury.

A person defending (trained or not) with other than a fire arm (e.g. barricading, hand-to-hand, running away, pepper spray, sharp/edged weapons, blunt objects, calling 911, etc...) use in an imminent bad guy deadly force threat situation has less than a 15% chance of of surviving the incident.  A person defended by a person without a firearm has less than a 15% chance of surviving the incident.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/self-defense/osd-guns-are-for-shooting-people-that-should-be-accepted-not-celebrated/comment-page-1/#comment-8153">Lynyrd S</a>.</p>
<p>and, sadly, some &#8216;men&#8217; need to be put six feet in a hole. Its the reality of the world we live in.</p>
<p>But take heart, in the 1.3 million (or more) valid defensive gun uses annually it becomes necessary to actually pull the trigger less than ~ 5% of the time (mostly because the bad guys run off when they see the gun) and out of those less than 1% of the bad guys die.</p>
<p>Ratio wise deaths from car accidents and medical malpractice and defective glass table tops compared to bad guys being actually shot that&#8217;s 2,500 (deaths from those other things) to 0.03 (bad guys die as a result of being shot by the defender) &#8212; 2,500:0.03.</p>
<p>Ratio wise a bad guy is more likely to die as a result of car accidents and medical malpractice and defective glass table tops than they are to die as a result of being shot in a valid defensive gun use.</p>
<p>The average innocent person is 1,500 times more likely to be run over by a car than they are to be accidentally or negligently shot by a law abiding person with a gun even if that person uses that gun in defensive gun use in the home or in public spaces.</p>
<p>In permitless (e.g. constitutional carry) carry areas only, the average innocent person is more than 1,600 times more likely to be run over by a car than they are to be accidentally or negligently shot by a law abiding person with a gun even if the law abiding person uses that gun in defensive gun use in the home or in public spaces.</p>
<p>A defender person (trained or not) who uses defensive gun use in an imminent bad guy deadly force threat situation has more than a 94% chance of surviving the incident without injury. A person defended by a person with a firearm has more than a 94% chance of chance of surviving the incident without injury.</p>
<p>A person defending (trained or not) with other than a fire arm (e.g. barricading, hand-to-hand, running away, pepper spray, sharp/edged weapons, blunt objects, calling 911, etc&#8230;) use in an imminent bad guy deadly force threat situation has less than a 15% chance of of surviving the incident.  A person defended by a person without a firearm has less than a 15% chance of surviving the incident.</p>
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		By: Lynyrd S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynyrd S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ain&#039;t good for nothin&#039; but puttin&#039; men six feet in a hole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ain&#8217;t good for nothin&#8217; but puttin&#8217; men six feet in a hole.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Guns are for shooting people.&quot;

Wrong.

Just because guns are used to shoot people that doesn&#039;t mean they ARE for shooting people.

Cars are used to run over people, either intentionally or accidently, frequently. Does that mean cars are for running people down?

Defective glass table tops (collectively) kill/injure over 30,000 people annually. Does that mean glass table tops are for killing/injuring people?

Around ~350,000 people are injurered, some killed, by medical mal-practice annually. Does that mean that doctors are for injuring/killing people?

This statement ... &quot;Guns are for shooting people.&quot; ... is one of ignorance and bias. Its a statement that has been used many times by the anti-gun agenda, its common among left-wing.

Guns are not anything by their selves. The person with the gun determines how its used and what its for.

So no, Guns are NOT for shooting people...even if they may at times be used to do that, in context with the article, in defense of life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Guns are for shooting people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>Just because guns are used to shoot people that doesn&#8217;t mean they ARE for shooting people.</p>
<p>Cars are used to run over people, either intentionally or accidently, frequently. Does that mean cars are for running people down?</p>
<p>Defective glass table tops (collectively) kill/injure over 30,000 people annually. Does that mean glass table tops are for killing/injuring people?</p>
<p>Around ~350,000 people are injurered, some killed, by medical mal-practice annually. Does that mean that doctors are for injuring/killing people?</p>
<p>This statement &#8230; &#8220;Guns are for shooting people.&#8221; &#8230; is one of ignorance and bias. Its a statement that has been used many times by the anti-gun agenda, its common among left-wing.</p>
<p>Guns are not anything by their selves. The person with the gun determines how its used and what its for.</p>
<p>So no, Guns are NOT for shooting people&#8230;even if they may at times be used to do that, in context with the article, in defense of life.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But blithe terms like these obscure a basic truth: it is never good.&quot;

Not really, the terms are expressions for the need to do it end result even though its not a good thing to live in a world where such may be necessary. But, when context is applied in terms of valid defense need it is a good thing because without it the defender was in peril of loss of their life and protecting their lives is a good thing and that should be celebrated. But at the same time its never a good thing from the view point of the &#039;attacker&#039; or anti-gun.

Notice how the anti-gun say they are all about saving lives so &#039;ban guns&#039;, but never acknowledge those thousands of lives saved annually through defensive gun use and that should be celebrated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But blithe terms like these obscure a basic truth: it is never good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really, the terms are expressions for the need to do it end result even though its not a good thing to live in a world where such may be necessary. But, when context is applied in terms of valid defense need it is a good thing because without it the defender was in peril of loss of their life and protecting their lives is a good thing and that should be celebrated. But at the same time its never a good thing from the view point of the &#8216;attacker&#8217; or anti-gun.</p>
<p>Notice how the anti-gun say they are all about saving lives so &#8216;ban guns&#8217;, but never acknowledge those thousands of lives saved annually through defensive gun use and that should be celebrated.</p>
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