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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;During the recent trial of James Crumbley, the father of the Oxford, Michigan school shooter, prosecutor Karen McDonald demonstrated the use of the cable lock that federal law mandates sellers provide with the 9 mm handgun used in the mass shooting.

Installing the lock took about 10 seconds.

Had Crumbley or his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, used the cable lock, the simple act of securing the weapon might have saved four teenagers’ lives, spared seven others from being shot and avoided traumatizing many more people. It also might have prevented their 15-year-old son from becoming a murderer and being sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison.&quot;

Ok, lets put this in context for this case and this cable lock thing:

First, the kid, like 100% of all &#039;mass shooters&#039;, was already driven to kill by mental illness. And this kid like almost 100% of such &#039;mass killers&#039; had given &#039;signals&#039; he was in trouble. In the kids case the signals were to others, with his last bit of remaining will and desire to resist the overwhelming mental illness drive to kill he even wrote it down for them with a note on a drawing at school - the school knew this kid was in trouble but did nothing to get him help. The parents knew he was in trouble too but did nothing to get him help.

OK, that being said, the cable lock is nothing. These mass killers are driven to kill by mental illness, they execute their plans to do so using what ever they can get - its unfortunate that a gun is used if they can get one but as much as the anti-gun want to claim other wise &#039;mass killers&#039; have used weapons other than firearms, especially sharpened edged weapons like knives, in a lot greater numbers than has happened with &#039;mass shootings&#039;. You just never hear about it, but nationwide there are over ~1,600 knife attacks upon victims daily across the United States and over half of those are upon multiple victims of four or more in all sorts of settings from, collectively, general public to private to even in schools, and granted, a mixture of injury and death collectively. 

A &#039;school shooter&#039; is just a &#039;mass shooter&#039; in a school - really, there is no difference between a &#039;mass shooter&#039; and a &#039;school shooter&#039;. These killers are driven to kill, they will use what ever they can get and use what ever means they can employ to get what ever they use. These &#039;mass&#039; killers that use a gun, history has shown us they will steal them if necessary and they have broken into homes and safes and gun closets to do so and cut through these cable locks in less than 10 seconds. They do this because they are driven to kill by their mental illness, controlled by it, consumed by it, and do what ever they must to satisfy that mental illness drive and a cable lock is not going to stop them.

So in the beginning I said lets put this in context for this case and this cable lock thing. The context is this: Nothing would have stopped this mentally ill kid from cutting through that cable lock and still doing what he did. In effect the cable lock would have had zero effect on the kids actions, would not have stopped him, would have done nothing to prevent this horrific tragedy. 

But ya know something that would have had a good chance of preventing this horrific tragedy at the most critical and obvious time? Its that time when this kid with his last bit of remaining will and desire to resist the overwhelming mental illness drive to kill, left that drawing with the note the teacher found.: The morning of the shooting, Ethan Crumbley’s teacher came upon a note on Ethan’s desk. The drawing contained the following: a drawing of a semi-automatic handgun pointed at the words, ‘The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.’ In another section of the note was a drawing of a bullet with the following words above that bullet: ‘Blood everywhere.’ Between the drawing of the gun and the bullet is the drawing of a person who appears to have been shot twice and bleeding. Below that figure is the drawing of a laughing emoji. Further down the drawing are the words, ‘My life is useless,’ and to the right of those words were the words  ‘The world is dead.’. The teacher took a picture of it with cell phone and reported it.

But ya know, I can tell you when the mental illness finally over ran the kid completely and he had no more left to resist it and he was then committed to carry out his heinous act of mental illness driven killing. It happened when the drawing found by the teacher and before it was turned over to the school counselor. 

School officials said this drawing prompted a 10 a.m. meeting with both parents the morning of the shooting. A school counselor went to the classroom, removed Crumbley and brought him into the office with his back pack. The counselor obtained the drawing, but Ethan had altered it, he had scratched out the gun and the bloody figure and the words ‘Help me,’ and, ‘My life is useless,’ ‘The world is dead,’ and, ‘Blood everywhere.’ They were all scratched out. The kid had done what so many of these mass killers had done before them when that mental illness drive was possibly discovered - he tried to &#039;obfuscate&#039; and divert and give &#039;excuses&#039; to hide the mental illness - they do this so they can avoid being stopped. That changed drawing, scratching things out, almost like &quot;hey, I didn&#039;t mean it. I&#039;m really a good kid, was joking, so let me go.&quot; - that was the moment, when he scratched those things out, when the mental illness has almost completely over run him.

Oh yes, he had the gun with him already in his back pack that morning of his heinous act but he was still &#039;conflicted&#039;, not fully committed yet when he came to school that morning. He tried resisting that driving mental illness one last time with that drawing, but it didn&#039;t work out. 

That right there, that drawing, the school knew this kid was in serious trouble. 

At the meeting James and Jennifer Crumbley were shown the drawing and told that both were required to get their son into counseling within 48 hours. They resisted the idea of Ethan leaving the school at that time and left the school without their son. That right there is when the school should have acted, searched his back pack, and physically removed him from the school through custody of police for having the gun - plus - the school should have reported for mental health evaluation - the school did none of this.

So it doesn&#039;t matter if Installing the lock took about 10 seconds - like so many of these &#039;mass killers&#039;, this kid was not going to be stopped by a minor thing, for example, a cable lock. They have to be be &#039;stopped&#039;, they are incapable of not doing these heinous acts. The cry for help with the drawing didn&#039;t work, the parents just left him there at school, the will to resist the driving mental illness impulse to kill was gone. He was conflicted that morning, had the gun already, was still hoping that something would stop him, then scratched out the drawing. The very last chance to stop him was in the decision of the school, and they failed, and when they failed to act that right there was the moment his last bit of resistance crumbled and he was completely over run by the mental illness drive to kill and he was then committed and there was nothing left to stop him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;During the recent trial of James Crumbley, the father of the Oxford, Michigan school shooter, prosecutor Karen McDonald demonstrated the use of the cable lock that federal law mandates sellers provide with the 9 mm handgun used in the mass shooting.</p>
<p>Installing the lock took about 10 seconds.</p>
<p>Had Crumbley or his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, used the cable lock, the simple act of securing the weapon might have saved four teenagers’ lives, spared seven others from being shot and avoided traumatizing many more people. It also might have prevented their 15-year-old son from becoming a murderer and being sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, lets put this in context for this case and this cable lock thing:</p>
<p>First, the kid, like 100% of all &#8216;mass shooters&#8217;, was already driven to kill by mental illness. And this kid like almost 100% of such &#8216;mass killers&#8217; had given &#8216;signals&#8217; he was in trouble. In the kids case the signals were to others, with his last bit of remaining will and desire to resist the overwhelming mental illness drive to kill he even wrote it down for them with a note on a drawing at school &#8211; the school knew this kid was in trouble but did nothing to get him help. The parents knew he was in trouble too but did nothing to get him help.</p>
<p>OK, that being said, the cable lock is nothing. These mass killers are driven to kill by mental illness, they execute their plans to do so using what ever they can get &#8211; its unfortunate that a gun is used if they can get one but as much as the anti-gun want to claim other wise &#8216;mass killers&#8217; have used weapons other than firearms, especially sharpened edged weapons like knives, in a lot greater numbers than has happened with &#8216;mass shootings&#8217;. You just never hear about it, but nationwide there are over ~1,600 knife attacks upon victims daily across the United States and over half of those are upon multiple victims of four or more in all sorts of settings from, collectively, general public to private to even in schools, and granted, a mixture of injury and death collectively. </p>
<p>A &#8216;school shooter&#8217; is just a &#8216;mass shooter&#8217; in a school &#8211; really, there is no difference between a &#8216;mass shooter&#8217; and a &#8216;school shooter&#8217;. These killers are driven to kill, they will use what ever they can get and use what ever means they can employ to get what ever they use. These &#8216;mass&#8217; killers that use a gun, history has shown us they will steal them if necessary and they have broken into homes and safes and gun closets to do so and cut through these cable locks in less than 10 seconds. They do this because they are driven to kill by their mental illness, controlled by it, consumed by it, and do what ever they must to satisfy that mental illness drive and a cable lock is not going to stop them.</p>
<p>So in the beginning I said lets put this in context for this case and this cable lock thing. The context is this: Nothing would have stopped this mentally ill kid from cutting through that cable lock and still doing what he did. In effect the cable lock would have had zero effect on the kids actions, would not have stopped him, would have done nothing to prevent this horrific tragedy. </p>
<p>But ya know something that would have had a good chance of preventing this horrific tragedy at the most critical and obvious time? Its that time when this kid with his last bit of remaining will and desire to resist the overwhelming mental illness drive to kill, left that drawing with the note the teacher found.: The morning of the shooting, Ethan Crumbley’s teacher came upon a note on Ethan’s desk. The drawing contained the following: a drawing of a semi-automatic handgun pointed at the words, ‘The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.’ In another section of the note was a drawing of a bullet with the following words above that bullet: ‘Blood everywhere.’ Between the drawing of the gun and the bullet is the drawing of a person who appears to have been shot twice and bleeding. Below that figure is the drawing of a laughing emoji. Further down the drawing are the words, ‘My life is useless,’ and to the right of those words were the words  ‘The world is dead.’. The teacher took a picture of it with cell phone and reported it.</p>
<p>But ya know, I can tell you when the mental illness finally over ran the kid completely and he had no more left to resist it and he was then committed to carry out his heinous act of mental illness driven killing. It happened when the drawing found by the teacher and before it was turned over to the school counselor. </p>
<p>School officials said this drawing prompted a 10 a.m. meeting with both parents the morning of the shooting. A school counselor went to the classroom, removed Crumbley and brought him into the office with his back pack. The counselor obtained the drawing, but Ethan had altered it, he had scratched out the gun and the bloody figure and the words ‘Help me,’ and, ‘My life is useless,’ ‘The world is dead,’ and, ‘Blood everywhere.’ They were all scratched out. The kid had done what so many of these mass killers had done before them when that mental illness drive was possibly discovered &#8211; he tried to &#8216;obfuscate&#8217; and divert and give &#8216;excuses&#8217; to hide the mental illness &#8211; they do this so they can avoid being stopped. That changed drawing, scratching things out, almost like &#8220;hey, I didn&#8217;t mean it. I&#8217;m really a good kid, was joking, so let me go.&#8221; &#8211; that was the moment, when he scratched those things out, when the mental illness has almost completely over run him.</p>
<p>Oh yes, he had the gun with him already in his back pack that morning of his heinous act but he was still &#8216;conflicted&#8217;, not fully committed yet when he came to school that morning. He tried resisting that driving mental illness one last time with that drawing, but it didn&#8217;t work out. </p>
<p>That right there, that drawing, the school knew this kid was in serious trouble. </p>
<p>At the meeting James and Jennifer Crumbley were shown the drawing and told that both were required to get their son into counseling within 48 hours. They resisted the idea of Ethan leaving the school at that time and left the school without their son. That right there is when the school should have acted, searched his back pack, and physically removed him from the school through custody of police for having the gun &#8211; plus &#8211; the school should have reported for mental health evaluation &#8211; the school did none of this.</p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t matter if Installing the lock took about 10 seconds &#8211; like so many of these &#8216;mass killers&#8217;, this kid was not going to be stopped by a minor thing, for example, a cable lock. They have to be be &#8216;stopped&#8217;, they are incapable of not doing these heinous acts. The cry for help with the drawing didn&#8217;t work, the parents just left him there at school, the will to resist the driving mental illness impulse to kill was gone. He was conflicted that morning, had the gun already, was still hoping that something would stop him, then scratched out the drawing. The very last chance to stop him was in the decision of the school, and they failed, and when they failed to act that right there was the moment his last bit of resistance crumbled and he was completely over run by the mental illness drive to kill and he was then committed and there was nothing left to stop him.</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2024 19:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Safe storage prevents harm&quot;

*Explicitly* ruled unconstitutional in the &#039;Heller&#039; ruling :

&quot;(3) The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment. &quot;

- and, 

&quot;Similarly, the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.&quot;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Safe storage prevents harm&#8221;</p>
<p>*Explicitly* ruled unconstitutional in the &#8216;Heller&#8217; ruling :</p>
<p>&#8220;(3) The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; and, </p>
<p>&#8220;Similarly, the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller</a></p>
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