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		By: Geoff PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62306&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

Stop off-topic spamming, a-hole...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62306">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>Stop off-topic spamming, a-hole&#8230;</p>
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		By: Geoff PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62028&quot;&gt;Just Sayin (OG)&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;The moment you think, “I’m safe. I know what I’m doing.”, thats when the fecal matter hits the whirling blades.&quot;

That&#039;s literally what kills the most pilots in the 100-200 total time in hours range...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62028">Just Sayin (OG)</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The moment you think, “I’m safe. I know what I’m doing.”, thats when the fecal matter hits the whirling blades.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s literally what kills the most pilots in the 100-200 total time in hours range&#8230;</p>
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		By: Miner49er		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miner49er]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 16:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62596&quot;&gt;Nanashi&lt;/a&gt;.

“chasing minimum viable product without altering price“

Welcome to capitalism!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62596">Nanashi</a>.</p>
<p>“chasing minimum viable product without altering price“</p>
<p>Welcome to capitalism!</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62260&quot;&gt;Specialist38&lt;/a&gt;.

After adding that, they still made some incremental changes to the SR9 over the years, I got one of the later ones. It&#039;s a great gun.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62260">Specialist38</a>.</p>
<p>After adding that, they still made some incremental changes to the SR9 over the years, I got one of the later ones. It&#8217;s a great gun.</p>
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		By: Nanashi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nanashi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 17:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No. Ron Cohen ruined it by deciding to take a &quot;premium&quot; brand and chasing minimum viable product without altering price. Exactly the same way he ruined Kimber.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Ron Cohen ruined it by deciding to take a &#8220;premium&#8221; brand and chasing minimum viable product without altering price. Exactly the same way he ruined Kimber.</p>
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		By: 10x25mm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[10x25mm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62100&quot;&gt;Chris T in KY&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Why did the “gun community” go along and accept Sig Sauer only issuing a voluntary recall, for a gun that was proven to not be drop safe?&quot;

&quot;Drop Safe&quot; is a fraught expression, like foolproof.  No thing is ever truly drop safe or foolproof.  You can always drop from a greater height, and impact at an even less likely contact angle, to achieve a drop test &#039;failure&#039;.  But what height, and what angle, represents the worst possible condition to be expected in the field?  Dropping from a plane or helicopter at altitude?  Contacting on the trigger?

The P.320 33° drop test discharge only occurred at a specific angle, when fitted with triggers beyond a certain mass.  It even passed California standards, as introduced.

Was a recall necessary?  This would be a value judgement.  Note here that most automobile recalls are wildly undersubscribed.  On average, about 69% of passenger vehicles ordered recalled are repaired during the three year period following the &#039;madatory&#039; recall.  So how is a voluntary recall to be distinguished from a standard or mandatory recall?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/safety/did-the-american-obsession-with-triggers-lead-to-the-sig-p320s-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-62100">Chris T in KY</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why did the “gun community” go along and accept Sig Sauer only issuing a voluntary recall, for a gun that was proven to not be drop safe?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Drop Safe&#8221; is a fraught expression, like foolproof.  No thing is ever truly drop safe or foolproof.  You can always drop from a greater height, and impact at an even less likely contact angle, to achieve a drop test &#8216;failure&#8217;.  But what height, and what angle, represents the worst possible condition to be expected in the field?  Dropping from a plane or helicopter at altitude?  Contacting on the trigger?</p>
<p>The P.320 33° drop test discharge only occurred at a specific angle, when fitted with triggers beyond a certain mass.  It even passed California standards, as introduced.</p>
<p>Was a recall necessary?  This would be a value judgement.  Note here that most automobile recalls are wildly undersubscribed.  On average, about 69% of passenger vehicles ordered recalled are repaired during the three year period following the &#8216;madatory&#8217; recall.  So how is a voluntary recall to be distinguished from a standard or mandatory recall?</p>
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		By: JS Bryan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JS Bryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 12:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aside from the whiff of &quot;elitism&quot; - not everyone has the means or resources to train at the level implied - but that&#039;s neither here nor there as far as the main point of this article. Sig may very well have brought a gun to market that&#039;s not as good as it could&#039;ve been in order to accommodate what customers felt they wanted. 

And they wouldn&#039;t be the first company to do so - GM built a revolutionary (for Detroit) compact car that some may have heard of called the Corvair, air-cooled, rear mounted engine, independent suspension, superb space utilization, economical, good performance considering the relatively modest horsepower. But they knew how much American drivers valued ride softness over handling so rather than provide the Corvair with a sufficiently firm suspension to keep driver&#039;s out of trouble they built the Corvair with fairly soft springs and depended on lower than typical for American car front tire pressure to &#039;fix&#039; the oversteer issue. So then American drivers proceeded to put their shiny new cars of the future into spins after setting the tires to the &quot;standard&quot; 32PSI. We were subjected to decades of Ralph Nader&#039;s sneering face after he made himself famous over the supposed Unsafe at Any Speed Corvair. And GM redesigned the Corvair from simple swing axles to true IRS and added a front anti-sway bar but the damage was done. Guess Sig should have done to industrial archeology along with market studies before deleting the doober.

I&#039;m old enough to have qualified with two of the USAF&#039;s recent handguns - the lovely S&#038;W M15 .38Spcl revolver and the Beretta M9 and in neither case did the DA trigger pull cause much consternation.  At the time I fired the S&#038;W at the range I&#039;d never even handled a SA pistol of any kind so outside of thumb-cocking the .38 (or my old H&#038;R .22) DA triggers were what I considered &quot;normal&quot;. Shooting the M9 was quite the eye opener for me - all those rounds right there in the gun! My first shots tended to be a bit of a flyer but close enough, the transition to SA did make hitting the sweet spot on the target easier. And even though I have smallish hands I rather liked the M9 though it is a hefty critter that needs a good holster setup to carry around. Ironically, by the time I needed to actually use an M9, my mobility position no longer required that qualification so I ended up carrying a rifle on that deployment when a pistol would&#039;ve made the job much easier to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the whiff of &#8220;elitism&#8221; &#8211; not everyone has the means or resources to train at the level implied &#8211; but that&#8217;s neither here nor there as far as the main point of this article. Sig may very well have brought a gun to market that&#8217;s not as good as it could&#8217;ve been in order to accommodate what customers felt they wanted. </p>
<p>And they wouldn&#8217;t be the first company to do so &#8211; GM built a revolutionary (for Detroit) compact car that some may have heard of called the Corvair, air-cooled, rear mounted engine, independent suspension, superb space utilization, economical, good performance considering the relatively modest horsepower. But they knew how much American drivers valued ride softness over handling so rather than provide the Corvair with a sufficiently firm suspension to keep driver&#8217;s out of trouble they built the Corvair with fairly soft springs and depended on lower than typical for American car front tire pressure to &#8216;fix&#8217; the oversteer issue. So then American drivers proceeded to put their shiny new cars of the future into spins after setting the tires to the &#8220;standard&#8221; 32PSI. We were subjected to decades of Ralph Nader&#8217;s sneering face after he made himself famous over the supposed Unsafe at Any Speed Corvair. And GM redesigned the Corvair from simple swing axles to true IRS and added a front anti-sway bar but the damage was done. Guess Sig should have done to industrial archeology along with market studies before deleting the doober.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m old enough to have qualified with two of the USAF&#8217;s recent handguns &#8211; the lovely S&amp;W M15 .38Spcl revolver and the Beretta M9 and in neither case did the DA trigger pull cause much consternation.  At the time I fired the S&amp;W at the range I&#8217;d never even handled a SA pistol of any kind so outside of thumb-cocking the .38 (or my old H&amp;R .22) DA triggers were what I considered &#8220;normal&#8221;. Shooting the M9 was quite the eye opener for me &#8211; all those rounds right there in the gun! My first shots tended to be a bit of a flyer but close enough, the transition to SA did make hitting the sweet spot on the target easier. And even though I have smallish hands I rather liked the M9 though it is a hefty critter that needs a good holster setup to carry around. Ironically, by the time I needed to actually use an M9, my mobility position no longer required that qualification so I ended up carrying a rifle on that deployment when a pistol would&#8217;ve made the job much easier to do.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 07:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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President Trump has signed an executive order attempting to end the practice of debanking businesses such as gun companies. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses.

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<p>President Trump has signed an executive order attempting to end the practice of debanking businesses such as gun companies. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses.</p>
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		By: Specialist38		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Specialist38]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 04:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seem to recall Ruger brought out the SR9 minus a “doober” (love that word).

Before they got going good - they had a recall.  I think this stymied the SR9s momentum.  It really is a nice gun.

But the “doober” or “dingus” is needed for drop safety.  

Since the bulk of striker-fired guns are mostly cocked, the trigger can complete its travel rearward if pistol is dropped on its butt.

The “doober” (being spring-loaded)prevents the trigger from heading home if it lands butt-down.

Maybe Sig figured out how to alter physics.  I do remember seeing LOTS of videos of Sig firing when rapped with a mallet.

Looks like that will continue to haunt Sig for a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seem to recall Ruger brought out the SR9 minus a “doober” (love that word).</p>
<p>Before they got going good &#8211; they had a recall.  I think this stymied the SR9s momentum.  It really is a nice gun.</p>
<p>But the “doober” or “dingus” is needed for drop safety.  </p>
<p>Since the bulk of striker-fired guns are mostly cocked, the trigger can complete its travel rearward if pistol is dropped on its butt.</p>
<p>The “doober” (being spring-loaded)prevents the trigger from heading home if it lands butt-down.</p>
<p>Maybe Sig figured out how to alter physics.  I do remember seeing LOTS of videos of Sig firing when rapped with a mallet.</p>
<p>Looks like that will continue to haunt Sig for a while.</p>
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		By: Doug Arnold		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2025 22:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>
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