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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2024 02:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6284&quot;&gt;SAFEupstateFML&lt;/a&gt;.

I like how Dan&#039;s counter to her comment was just a picture of them easily standing on that dangerously sloped roof.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6284">SAFEupstateFML</a>.</p>
<p>I like how Dan&#8217;s counter to her comment was just a picture of them easily standing on that dangerously sloped roof.</p>
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		By: JC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6290&quot;&gt;LKB&lt;/a&gt;.

Too late. Those comms have already been buried. The CYA doctrine is Supreme!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6290">LKB</a>.</p>
<p>Too late. Those comms have already been buried. The CYA doctrine is Supreme!</p>
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		By: Dwilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The SS counter snipers on the roof behind trump where on a roof with a much greater pitch than the roof the shooter was on.   That is a lame excuse by a lame individual whom has not a clue.  That was a BS excuse]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SS counter snipers on the roof behind trump where on a roof with a much greater pitch than the roof the shooter was on.   That is a lame excuse by a lame individual whom has not a clue.  That was a BS excuse</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6290&quot;&gt;LKB&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;And what’s the tallest structure in the area? The damn water tower! Why didn’t they have eyes up there?&quot;

the Trump campaign reports the asked and were denied additional security.  Trump has his own personal security, I hope he puts them in a supervisory position over the Secret Service.

And what political party was the person who denied the additional security?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6290">LKB</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;And what’s the tallest structure in the area? The damn water tower! Why didn’t they have eyes up there?&#8221;</p>
<p>the Trump campaign reports the asked and were denied additional security.  Trump has his own personal security, I hope he puts them in a supervisory position over the Secret Service.</p>
<p>And what political party was the person who denied the additional security?</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6284&quot;&gt;SAFEupstateFML&lt;/a&gt;.

That &#039;slope&#039; was so shallow it&#039;s laughable.

I&#039;m very interested in discovering the names of the persons who denied requested additional Secret Service security and who their political party is.  Oh, and who deemed 150 yards to be &#039;outside the security perimeter&#039;...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6284">SAFEupstateFML</a>.</p>
<p>That &#8216;slope&#8217; was so shallow it&#8217;s laughable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested in discovering the names of the persons who denied requested additional Secret Service security and who their political party is.  Oh, and who deemed 150 yards to be &#8216;outside the security perimeter&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Inside deep state hit job or Lazy Incompetence		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inside deep state hit job or Lazy Incompetence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Full spectrum incompetence and authorities making excuses for said incompetence allow conspiracy theories to flourish.
How many conspiracy theories would vanish or diminish if the authorities involved would just admit they fucked up.
Do we want a public that sees their federal betters as fallible human beings not actually better or more qualified than other slob or do we want a public that thinks hyper-capable overlords are pulling invisible strings to make outlandish things happen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full spectrum incompetence and authorities making excuses for said incompetence allow conspiracy theories to flourish.<br />
How many conspiracy theories would vanish or diminish if the authorities involved would just admit they fucked up.<br />
Do we want a public that sees their federal betters as fallible human beings not actually better or more qualified than other slob or do we want a public that thinks hyper-capable overlords are pulling invisible strings to make outlandish things happen?</p>
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		By: Scoest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scoest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It looks like the counter snipers were on a sloped roof also.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the counter snipers were on a sloped roof also.</p>
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		By: Hush		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6293&quot;&gt;Hush&lt;/a&gt;.

The Director basically said,  we&#039;ll secure the &quot;inside&quot; of the building, but the roof is on it&#039;s own.
That in and of itself seems like a huge lack of a full coverage of possible sniper locations.
There were several easy ways to secure the entire(roof included) building, yet the SS chose to secure from the &quot;inside&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6293">Hush</a>.</p>
<p>The Director basically said,  we&#8217;ll secure the &#8220;inside&#8221; of the building, but the roof is on it&#8217;s own.<br />
That in and of itself seems like a huge lack of a full coverage of possible sniper locations.<br />
There were several easy ways to secure the entire(roof included) building, yet the SS chose to secure from the &#8220;inside&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Hush		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6289&quot;&gt;uncommon_senes&lt;/a&gt;.

It is reasonable that if Crooks could maintain his balance and fire multiple shots with a rifle while perched on the slanted roof, that others could have been placed up there for security too.  

&quot;“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside,” she said.

They couldn&#039;t go on the roof for safety reasons, but others can and did.   Makes perfect illogical sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/we-still-have-no-idea-what-happened-in-butler-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-6289">uncommon_senes</a>.</p>
<p>It is reasonable that if Crooks could maintain his balance and fire multiple shots with a rifle while perched on the slanted roof, that others could have been placed up there for security too.  </p>
<p>&#8220;“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside,” she said.</p>
<p>They couldn&#8217;t go on the roof for safety reasons, but others can and did.   Makes perfect illogical sense.</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[House Oversight Committee should be demanding the recordings of the SS comms before they get &quot;misplaced.&quot;

Reports are that command was notified that there was someone on that roof minutes before the dirtbag started shooting.  The fact that they tried to get an officer onto the roof to check that out would confirm such reports.    

If command was notified that there was someone on the roof, the SS countersnipers would doubtlessly have had eyes on him immediately -- they&#039;d just have had to glass that roof and they would have seen him.   

The fact that the countersnipers took the dirtbag out shortly after he started shooting also strongly suggests they had already acquired him as a target before the first shots were fired.

If, as therefore appears likely, the countersnipers saw him *before* he started shooting, and if reports are correct that they then requested permission to engage (and such was denied or otherwise not given by SS command), then whoever made that call needs to be pilloried.   And given the &quot;DEI uber alies&quot; agenda of the current SS head, I won&#039;t be shocked if said person turns out to be another DEI hire / promotion.

And what&#039;s the tallest structure in the area?   The damn water tower!   Why didn&#039;t they have eyes up there?

Screwup of gargantuan proportions.   Which, under the current administration, means nobody will be held accountable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>House Oversight Committee should be demanding the recordings of the SS comms before they get &#8220;misplaced.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reports are that command was notified that there was someone on that roof minutes before the dirtbag started shooting.  The fact that they tried to get an officer onto the roof to check that out would confirm such reports.    </p>
<p>If command was notified that there was someone on the roof, the SS countersnipers would doubtlessly have had eyes on him immediately &#8212; they&#8217;d just have had to glass that roof and they would have seen him.   </p>
<p>The fact that the countersnipers took the dirtbag out shortly after he started shooting also strongly suggests they had already acquired him as a target before the first shots were fired.</p>
<p>If, as therefore appears likely, the countersnipers saw him *before* he started shooting, and if reports are correct that they then requested permission to engage (and such was denied or otherwise not given by SS command), then whoever made that call needs to be pilloried.   And given the &#8220;DEI uber alies&#8221; agenda of the current SS head, I won&#8217;t be shocked if said person turns out to be another DEI hire / promotion.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s the tallest structure in the area?   The damn water tower!   Why didn&#8217;t they have eyes up there?</p>
<p>Screwup of gargantuan proportions.   Which, under the current administration, means nobody will be held accountable.</p>
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