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		By: Kid Handcock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kid Handcock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3747&quot;&gt;Ken Mitchell&lt;/a&gt;.

you seem to understand.
Mr Boch, the author, does not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3747">Ken Mitchell</a>.</p>
<p>you seem to understand.<br />
Mr Boch, the author, does not.</p>
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		By: Kid Handcock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kid Handcock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 05:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3751&quot;&gt;CBI&lt;/a&gt;.

These kids were not volunteers, not soldiers, not trained and prepared.  They was no way for them to usefully respond.  They were made into traumatised victims.
Maybe you should ponder that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3751">CBI</a>.</p>
<p>These kids were not volunteers, not soldiers, not trained and prepared.  They was no way for them to usefully respond.  They were made into traumatised victims.<br />
Maybe you should ponder that.</p>
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		By: Kid Handcock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kid Handcock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 05:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3757&quot;&gt;Michael Clyde&lt;/a&gt;.

It seems to have escaped you that these kids didn&#039;t volunteer to be terrified and terrorized. They are not soldiers. They are not submariners.
      They had no way to react, no Fight or Flight response or training to prepare them, to avail themselves of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3757">Michael Clyde</a>.</p>
<p>It seems to have escaped you that these kids didn&#8217;t volunteer to be terrified and terrorized. They are not soldiers. They are not submariners.<br />
      They had no way to react, no Fight or Flight response or training to prepare them, to avail themselves of.</p>
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		By: "Kid" Handcock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA["Kid" Handcock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 05:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3751&quot;&gt;CBI&lt;/a&gt;.

These school kids are civilians, not policemen or soldiers. They didn&#039;t sign up to be terrorized. Somehow this has totally escaped Mr Boch&#039;s consciousness.

All the School Teachers and School Officials responsible should be fired forthwith.
All members of the Police Department responsible should be fired, starting with the Chief of Police.
Both the fired Police and Teachers/School Officials should be replaced by experienced by qualified experinced good people with carefully examined records who are from outside Burlington.
       Parents of the school kids should be engaging lawyers, and the suit should be for more than $10 Million per student.

Traumatizing people is not undone, ever. Ever,
      No counseling, especially under the aegis of this school is satisfactory.  The city of Burlington is at end, responsible for the damage to these kids, and owes them lifetime psychological therapy cover from therapists of their choice. But the scarring will be there, and more so as the decades pile on.

      I spent 4 years in war from 65 to 68. Then and for decades after, I shook it off as though it was nothing. Now 56 years later, I wake up screaming, struck by the nightmares of war.  Just like my father did, in his 80s, when he screamed in anger and pain dreaming of his comrades screaming to him for help, who he could not save.

It seems to me that Mr Boch has not been in a shooting war. The conclusions he comes to are ineffably without thought  and his words are those of a smug superior puffed up windbag.  He should not be writing for shootingnewsweekly, till he does a few years of emotional intelligence training, because he seems to have none now..
   I am disgusted that this should have happened, and disgusted with Mr Boch&#039;s article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3751">CBI</a>.</p>
<p>These school kids are civilians, not policemen or soldiers. They didn&#8217;t sign up to be terrorized. Somehow this has totally escaped Mr Boch&#8217;s consciousness.</p>
<p>All the School Teachers and School Officials responsible should be fired forthwith.<br />
All members of the Police Department responsible should be fired, starting with the Chief of Police.<br />
Both the fired Police and Teachers/School Officials should be replaced by experienced by qualified experinced good people with carefully examined records who are from outside Burlington.<br />
       Parents of the school kids should be engaging lawyers, and the suit should be for more than $10 Million per student.</p>
<p>Traumatizing people is not undone, ever. Ever,<br />
      No counseling, especially under the aegis of this school is satisfactory.  The city of Burlington is at end, responsible for the damage to these kids, and owes them lifetime psychological therapy cover from therapists of their choice. But the scarring will be there, and more so as the decades pile on.</p>
<p>      I spent 4 years in war from 65 to 68. Then and for decades after, I shook it off as though it was nothing. Now 56 years later, I wake up screaming, struck by the nightmares of war.  Just like my father did, in his 80s, when he screamed in anger and pain dreaming of his comrades screaming to him for help, who he could not save.</p>
<p>It seems to me that Mr Boch has not been in a shooting war. The conclusions he comes to are ineffably without thought  and his words are those of a smug superior puffed up windbag.  He should not be writing for shootingnewsweekly, till he does a few years of emotional intelligence training, because he seems to have none now..<br />
   I am disgusted that this should have happened, and disgusted with Mr Boch&#8217;s article.</p>
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		By: Michael Clyde		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Clyde]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That wasn&#039;t my experience in the late &#039;80s US Navy submarine force. It wasn&#039;t officially announced...but everyone knew there was a drill set about to start.

 The entire point of that evolution was to practice for when SHTF...so when it really happened,  you&#039;d react both quickly and correctly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn&#8217;t my experience in the late &#8217;80s US Navy submarine force. It wasn&#8217;t officially announced&#8230;but everyone knew there was a drill set about to start.</p>
<p> The entire point of that evolution was to practice for when SHTF&#8230;so when it really happened,  you&#8217;d react both quickly and correctly.</p>
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		By: Michael Clyde		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Clyde]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3751&quot;&gt;CBI&lt;/a&gt;.

That wasn&#039;t my experience in the late &#039;80s US Navy submarine force. It wasn&#039;t officially announced...but everyone knew there was a drill set about to start.

 The entire point of that evolution was to practice for when SHTF...so when it really happened,  you&#039;d react both quickly and correctly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3751">CBI</a>.</p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t my experience in the late &#8217;80s US Navy submarine force. It wasn&#8217;t officially announced&#8230;but everyone knew there was a drill set about to start.</p>
<p> The entire point of that evolution was to practice for when SHTF&#8230;so when it really happened,  you&#8217;d react both quickly and correctly.</p>
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		By: CBI		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CBI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3747&quot;&gt;Ken Mitchell&lt;/a&gt;.

This is not true in the submarine force, at least as of the late 1980s.  The rationale is that the crew would not resound as fast or effectively if it was announced beforehand to be a drill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3747">Ken Mitchell</a>.</p>
<p>This is not true in the submarine force, at least as of the late 1980s.  The rationale is that the crew would not resound as fast or effectively if it was announced beforehand to be a drill.</p>
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		By: Ken Mitchell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3706&quot;&gt;Geoff &quot;I&#039;m getting too old for this shit&quot; PR&lt;/a&gt;.

Especially since Vermont is a &quot;Vermont-carry&quot;, aka Constitutional carry, state!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/police-procedure/burlington-vermont-police-apologizes-for-unannounced-mass-shooting-simulation/comment-page-1/#comment-3706">Geoff &#8220;I&#8217;m getting too old for this shit&#8221; PR</a>.</p>
<p>Especially since Vermont is a &#8220;Vermont-carry&#8221;, aka Constitutional carry, state!</p>
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		By: Ken Mitchell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the military, such &quot;exercises&quot; are prefaced by clear statements &quot;THIS IS A DRILL&quot;, so people know not to react literally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the military, such &#8220;exercises&#8221; are prefaced by clear statements &#8220;THIS IS A DRILL&#8221;, so people know not to react literally.</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Burlington, Vermont Police Apologize For Unannounced Mass Shooting Simulation&quot;

They are damn lucky an armed citizen didn&#039;t drop the &#039;actor&#039; playing the mass-shooter...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Burlington, Vermont Police Apologize For Unannounced Mass Shooting Simulation&#8221;</p>
<p>They are damn lucky an armed citizen didn&#8217;t drop the &#8216;actor&#8217; playing the mass-shooter&#8230;</p>
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