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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 23:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/op-ed/dorr-brothers-american-firearms-association-aggressively-seeks-donations-but-actual-results-are-optional/comment-page-1/#comment-51346&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

The Dorr brothers have other scams they run too. One being the &#039;right to life&#039;/pro-life anti-abortion area. They usually run this scam in the same states in which they run the &#039;gun rights&#039; scams, for example, the &#039;Minnesota Right to Life&#039; scam while running the ‘Minnesota Gun Rights’ scam. The also do a &#039;climate&#039; scam. They use the same basic scam methods in each scam type, aggressively solicit for donations- make false claims of how they are doing this or that or have done this or that for - claim to be lobbying and fighting hard for your rights for this or that or what ever the cause is but no real verification they have done anything, etc.... they have even claimed they were the major diving force behind certain bills passing and being signed into law but oddly its a &#039;but the fight is not over so send us some money now so we can keep fighting for this bill&#039;, when no such bill ever existed.

The anti-gun side say they are &#039;far right wing&#039; and far-right activist. This is just false projection on their part and its not true, they are saying that because &#039;guns&#039;. 

What they are is &#039;no-wing&#039;, and more left-wing which is where they take their scam trolling points from. For example, their &#039;activism&#039; scam in COVID - the rhetoric centered around contentious points put forth by left-wingers but didn&#039;t stray from the standard left-wing rethoric formula to induce a false fear to get people riled up. However, they are not actually any-wing - they are scammers and out for them selves with no dedication to the 2A or pro-life or anything else except the money they can make from &#039;donations&#039; and in that they are more akin to the left-wing groups behind things like BLM and NoKings as they rake in the donations and their organizer hierarchy take a healthy salary from the donations as their rhetoric keeps people riled up or in fear of something happening ... &#039;now if ya just donate a little more we can fight this.&#039; and the donations flow from the duped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/op-ed/dorr-brothers-american-firearms-association-aggressively-seeks-donations-but-actual-results-are-optional/comment-page-1/#comment-51346">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>The Dorr brothers have other scams they run too. One being the &#8216;right to life&#8217;/pro-life anti-abortion area. They usually run this scam in the same states in which they run the &#8216;gun rights&#8217; scams, for example, the &#8216;Minnesota Right to Life&#8217; scam while running the ‘Minnesota Gun Rights’ scam. The also do a &#8216;climate&#8217; scam. They use the same basic scam methods in each scam type, aggressively solicit for donations- make false claims of how they are doing this or that or have done this or that for &#8211; claim to be lobbying and fighting hard for your rights for this or that or what ever the cause is but no real verification they have done anything, etc&#8230;. they have even claimed they were the major diving force behind certain bills passing and being signed into law but oddly its a &#8216;but the fight is not over so send us some money now so we can keep fighting for this bill&#8217;, when no such bill ever existed.</p>
<p>The anti-gun side say they are &#8216;far right wing&#8217; and far-right activist. This is just false projection on their part and its not true, they are saying that because &#8216;guns&#8217;. </p>
<p>What they are is &#8216;no-wing&#8217;, and more left-wing which is where they take their scam trolling points from. For example, their &#8216;activism&#8217; scam in COVID &#8211; the rhetoric centered around contentious points put forth by left-wingers but didn&#8217;t stray from the standard left-wing rethoric formula to induce a false fear to get people riled up. However, they are not actually any-wing &#8211; they are scammers and out for them selves with no dedication to the 2A or pro-life or anything else except the money they can make from &#8216;donations&#8217; and in that they are more akin to the left-wing groups behind things like BLM and NoKings as they rake in the donations and their organizer hierarchy take a healthy salary from the donations as their rhetoric keeps people riled up or in fear of something happening &#8230; &#8216;now if ya just donate a little more we can fight this.&#8217; and the donations flow from the duped.</p>
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		By: hawkeye		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They also have an office here in Ohio.  Funny, I looked it up and got a hit on a UPS store in Columbus, specifically Suite (aka Box?) 311 at the East Main location.  They are registered as a non-profit in Ohio that will gladly accept your non-tax-deductible donations, although I found no record of them registering as a lobbyist here.  Ok, this is hilarious.  Google their Ohio phone number, 614.795.3421.  The location pic for the first hit shows a red dumpster beside a UPS truck, at the back of the building.  That oughta say all you need to know.

https://www.google.com/search?q=614.795.3421&#038;sca_esv=50dc833e4eea275e&#038;source=hp&#038;ei=yKRlaKyANb2U0PEPyOarmAc&#038;iflsig=AOw8s4IAAAAAaGWy2FN9cfAPFpIS2aA6s6ZXPO-isZ8-&#038;ved=0ahUKEwishKitj5-OAxU9CjQIHUjzCnMQ4dUDCBA&#038;uact=5&#038;oq=614.795.3421&#038;gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6Igw2MTQuNzk1LjM0MjFImZQBUPsuWMN0cAJ4AJABAJgBfqAB_QeqAQQxMC4xuAEDyAEA-AEC-AEBmAIBoAI4qAIKwgIKEC4YAxjqAhiPAcICChAAGAMY6gIYjwGYAzjxBUC94TfMiETMkgcBMaAH5AWyBwC4BwDCBwM1LTHIBzA&#038;sclient=gws-wiz&#038;sei=3qRlaOS4FuTFp84PkfKy-Qs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also have an office here in Ohio.  Funny, I looked it up and got a hit on a UPS store in Columbus, specifically Suite (aka Box?) 311 at the East Main location.  They are registered as a non-profit in Ohio that will gladly accept your non-tax-deductible donations, although I found no record of them registering as a lobbyist here.  Ok, this is hilarious.  Google their Ohio phone number, 614.795.3421.  The location pic for the first hit shows a red dumpster beside a UPS truck, at the back of the building.  That oughta say all you need to know.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=614.795.3421&#038;sca_esv=50dc833e4eea275e&#038;source=hp&#038;ei=yKRlaKyANb2U0PEPyOarmAc&#038;iflsig=AOw8s4IAAAAAaGWy2FN9cfAPFpIS2aA6s6ZXPO-isZ8-&#038;ved=0ahUKEwishKitj5-OAxU9CjQIHUjzCnMQ4dUDCBA&#038;uact=5&#038;oq=614.795.3421&#038;gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6Igw2MTQuNzk1LjM0MjFImZQBUPsuWMN0cAJ4AJABAJgBfqAB_QeqAQQxMC4xuAEDyAEA-AEC-AEBmAIBoAI4qAIKwgIKEC4YAxjqAhiPAcICChAAGAMY6gIYjwGYAzjxBUC94TfMiETMkgcBMaAH5AWyBwC4BwDCBwM1LTHIBzA&#038;sclient=gws-wiz&#038;sei=3qRlaOS4FuTFp84PkfKy-Qs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/search?q=614.795.3421&#038;sca_esv=50dc833e4eea275e&#038;source=hp&#038;ei=yKRlaKyANb2U0PEPyOarmAc&#038;iflsig=AOw8s4IAAAAAaGWy2FN9cfAPFpIS2aA6s6ZXPO-isZ8-&#038;ved=0ahUKEwishKitj5-OAxU9CjQIHUjzCnMQ4dUDCBA&#038;uact=5&#038;oq=614.795.3421&#038;gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6Igw2MTQuNzk1LjM0MjFImZQBUPsuWMN0cAJ4AJABAJgBfqAB_QeqAQQxMC4xuAEDyAEA-AEC-AEBmAIBoAI4qAIKwgIKEC4YAxjqAhiPAcICChAAGAMY6gIYjwGYAzjxBUC94TfMiETMkgcBMaAH5AWyBwC4BwDCBwM1LTHIBzA&#038;sclient=gws-wiz&#038;sei=3qRlaOS4FuTFp84PkfKy-Qs</a></p>
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		By: BobS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BobS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 21:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NPR&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510356/no-compromise&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;No Compromise&lt;/a&gt; podcast &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2020/08/27/906896875/introducing-no-compromise&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;launched&lt;/a&gt; in 2020 with a series on the Dorr brothers 
With so little substance and accomplishment, it&#039;s surprising they&#039;re still around
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2020/09/07/910518992/a-world-where-the-nra-is-soft-on-guns&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;A World Where The NRA Is Soft On Guns&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2020/09/14/912858822/the-facebook-flock&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;The Facebook Flock&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2020/09/21/915445969/does-no-compromising-really-work&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Does No-Compromising Really Work?&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2020/09/28/917922164/building-the-kingdom-of-god&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Building The Kingdom Of God&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2020/10/12/923143195/the-original-no-compromisers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;The Original No Compromisers&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925558235/a-one-man-propaganda-band&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;A One-Man Propaganda Band&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPR&#8217;s <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510356/no-compromise" rel="nofollow ugc">No Compromise</a> podcast <a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/08/27/906896875/introducing-no-compromise" rel="nofollow ugc">launched</a> in 2020 with a series on the Dorr brothers<br />
With so little substance and accomplishment, it&#8217;s surprising they&#8217;re still around<br />
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/09/07/910518992/a-world-where-the-nra-is-soft-on-guns" rel="nofollow ugc">A World Where The NRA Is Soft On Guns</a><br />
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/09/14/912858822/the-facebook-flock" rel="nofollow ugc">The Facebook Flock</a><br />
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/09/21/915445969/does-no-compromising-really-work" rel="nofollow ugc">Does No-Compromising Really Work?</a><br />
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/09/28/917922164/building-the-kingdom-of-god" rel="nofollow ugc">Building The Kingdom Of God</a><br />
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/10/12/923143195/the-original-no-compromisers" rel="nofollow ugc">The Original No Compromisers</a><br />
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925558235/a-one-man-propaganda-band" rel="nofollow ugc">A One-Man Propaganda Band</a></p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 21:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/op-ed/dorr-brothers-american-firearms-association-aggressively-seeks-donations-but-actual-results-are-optional/comment-page-1/#comment-51335&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

The Door Bros are known scammers in the gun world, they been at it since 2013

They set up orgs in states using the states names ... &#039;Minnesota Gun Rights&#039;, &#039;Iowa Gun Owners&#039;, &#039;Illinois Firearms Association&#039;, etc... and now national with their scam with &#039;American Firearms Association&#039;. The pattern is always the same - claims of fighting for gun rights and lobbying legislators and getting bills introduced and backing bills and how they were responsible for getting this or that passed and the list goes on and on, while they aggressively solicit for donations ... but when you check out their claims you find just about zero. And although they did have non-profit status, or claim they do (sometimes their claims of non-profit status are a lie), any 990&#039;s they do file for their non-profit show expenses that do not make any sense for lobby efforts and the activity they claim because they are always missing the key expenses that show up in lobbying, while the guys claim to be working all these hours every week with $0 pay from the org but have no other verifiable income while living a nice comfortable life style. 

The got caught in their scam once in Minnesota, I think it was back in 2019 - calming they were a registered non-profit and collecting over $200,000 in &#039;charitable donations&#039; - but the IRS had pulled their non-profit status in 2016, and they claimed to have been filing 990&#039;s all that time but no evidence of any 990&#039;s then they tried to lie their way out of it by claiming it was a mistake and the information would appear soon on the IRS site but it never appeared and not a one of the state legislatures they claimed to have been working with knew who they were or had ever been contacted by the &#039;Minnesota Gun Rights&#039; organization. One of the legislatures stood up in a committee meeting in which several legislators the Dorr Bros claimed to have been working with to &#039;advance gun rights&#039; in the state were present, and he asked for show of hands of those that had been approached by &#039;Minnesota Gun Rights&#039; or the Dorr Bros and no hands were raised and no one had ever heard of them.      

Yeah, scammers.

&quot;He told me how his organization – the American Firearms Association – is responsible for passing Constitutional Carry in Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Missouri and a couple of other states.  I’m sorry.  I couldn’t write fast enough to keep up, in part because I was laughing so hard.&quot;

Yeah, I don&#039;t blame you for laughing John.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/op-ed/dorr-brothers-american-firearms-association-aggressively-seeks-donations-but-actual-results-are-optional/comment-page-1/#comment-51335">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>The Door Bros are known scammers in the gun world, they been at it since 2013</p>
<p>They set up orgs in states using the states names &#8230; &#8216;Minnesota Gun Rights&#8217;, &#8216;Iowa Gun Owners&#8217;, &#8216;Illinois Firearms Association&#8217;, etc&#8230; and now national with their scam with &#8216;American Firearms Association&#8217;. The pattern is always the same &#8211; claims of fighting for gun rights and lobbying legislators and getting bills introduced and backing bills and how they were responsible for getting this or that passed and the list goes on and on, while they aggressively solicit for donations &#8230; but when you check out their claims you find just about zero. And although they did have non-profit status, or claim they do (sometimes their claims of non-profit status are a lie), any 990&#8217;s they do file for their non-profit show expenses that do not make any sense for lobby efforts and the activity they claim because they are always missing the key expenses that show up in lobbying, while the guys claim to be working all these hours every week with $0 pay from the org but have no other verifiable income while living a nice comfortable life style. </p>
<p>The got caught in their scam once in Minnesota, I think it was back in 2019 &#8211; calming they were a registered non-profit and collecting over $200,000 in &#8216;charitable donations&#8217; &#8211; but the IRS had pulled their non-profit status in 2016, and they claimed to have been filing 990&#8217;s all that time but no evidence of any 990&#8217;s then they tried to lie their way out of it by claiming it was a mistake and the information would appear soon on the IRS site but it never appeared and not a one of the state legislatures they claimed to have been working with knew who they were or had ever been contacted by the &#8216;Minnesota Gun Rights&#8217; organization. One of the legislatures stood up in a committee meeting in which several legislators the Dorr Bros claimed to have been working with to &#8216;advance gun rights&#8217; in the state were present, and he asked for show of hands of those that had been approached by &#8216;Minnesota Gun Rights&#8217; or the Dorr Bros and no hands were raised and no one had ever heard of them.      </p>
<p>Yeah, scammers.</p>
<p>&#8220;He told me how his organization – the American Firearms Association – is responsible for passing Constitutional Carry in Ohio, Iowa, Georgia, Missouri and a couple of other states.  I’m sorry.  I couldn’t write fast enough to keep up, in part because I was laughing so hard.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t blame you for laughing John.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dudley Brown I mean...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dudley Brown I mean&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 20:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This sounds like RMGO and Dudley Moore, same playbook, same scam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like RMGO and Dudley Moore, same playbook, same scam.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Dorr Brothers are well known scammers.]]></description>
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