Comments on: We’re Headed Into a Bright Future Where Sub-16-Inch Rifles Will Be a Lot Less Popular

By: Grumpy 49

Grumpy 49 — Sat, 19 Jul 2025 04:04:09 +0000

A SBR M-1 30 Cardine may be the best compromise defensive firearm versus a Pistol Caliber Carbine. With modern bullets, current M-1 Carbines punch well above the current crop of 9mm PCCs. Unlike the 9mm PCCs, the M-1 is not a blow back type action. At ~5 1/2 pounds, a full-size M-1 Carbine is significantly lighter than any of the current PCCs. Looking at an old SPEER #13 reloading manual, (pages 476/477), the ballistics for the 30 Caliber RUGER Super Blackhawk, with a 7 1/2″ barrel, equal those for a 16″ barreled 9mm PCC. The SPEER date was recorded from that revolver, and not a closed breech “proof” barrel.

Now think how effective a 12″ barreled “Paratrooper” version M-1 Carbine would be. After all, the military made great use of such a modification to the M-1 Carbine when they were in Southeast Asia about 60 years ago. Some were even “upgraded” with the addition of M-2 components.

Typical SBRs are mainly geared towards defensive use, as opposed to hunting. I would buy a 12″ Paratrooper model M-1 Carbine, if one was ever available, mainly just because I could. As an “older shooter”, I have hunted using a full-sized M-1 Carbine and found the 30 Carbine round works for varmints in heavy brush. A 12″ Paratrooper M-1 Carbine should be equally as effective.

Bonus Point – First time someone shoots a 10″ barreled 223, they would understand why a Suppressor is absolutely required. And for most “Rifle” cartridges, the ballistics performance loss is horrible. So – A SBR using almost any “Rifle” type cartridge is a waste. 16″ barrels, or even 20″ barrels, are still viable. Magnum Revolver Cartridges have Rims and are difficult to feed in Semi Autos. So, the range of effective cartridges for use in SBRs is limited.

By: Smince

Smince — Fri, 18 Jul 2025 16:15:47 +0000

Didn’t you mean where 16″ and greater rifles will be less popular? Because your whole article proved short barrels will become MORE popular

By: Coach

Coach — Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:22:19 +0000

Registration helps the legal cause of demonstrating “common use.”
If we get to the day that any form of confiscation occurs, it won’t last long. If just 1% of gun owners decide their guns won’t be taken today, there won’t be any cops left for the second day of operations. This is a huge win and more are coming.

By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR

Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR — Fri, 18 Jul 2025 05:32:35 +0000

In reply to .40 cal Booger.

“ATF To Lose 25% Budget | Registry Deletion Required”

You now damn well what will happen, they are now furiously backing those records up and stashing them somewhere safe.

For re-use when they want…

By: Geoff PR

Geoff PR — Fri, 18 Jul 2025 05:14:46 +0000

In reply to tsbhoa.p.jr. "8.6blk." Why 8.6 compared to .300 BLK?

By: .40 cal Booger

.40 cal Booger — Tue, 15 Jul 2025 19:03:50 +0000

ATF To Lose 25% Budget | Registry Deletion Required | ATF – DEA Merger Confirmed DOA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx-LLQksALY

(note: also de-funded are … ATF frame and receiver rule – Pistol Brace rule – Engaged in the Business rule – Biden export restrictions – & more and things that did not make it into the BBB)

By: .40 cal Booger

.40 cal Booger — Tue, 15 Jul 2025 16:58:00 +0000

Soooo...on 1 Jan 2026 the ATF definition of 'Short Barreled Rifle' in effect for builders becomes : Torquing the barrel nut.

By: tsbhoa.p.jr

tsbhoa.p.jr — Tue, 15 Jul 2025 16:41:49 +0000

8.6blk.

By: Shire-man

Shire-man — Tue, 15 Jul 2025 15:06:02 +0000

Registration is a red-herring at this point.
The omnipresent reality of wholesale data collection means If you’re a gun owner the government knows it or at least can know it if it cared to.
Likewise it’s not as if the government really cares if it doesn’t know. Your door will be kicked in the same way whether they’re after you for machine guns, drugs, unpaid parking tickets, unpermitted structures or for nothing at all as we’ve seen too many times with wrong addresses and questionable warrants. It’ll still be a dozen deep stack of tactical Larpers tossing flashbangs into baby cribs.
The same argument for fools who claim carrying will lead to more paranoid cops. As if no cop has ever fired on an unarmed person, person holding their wallet to get their ID or a person holding a phone.

2+2, 3+1, 16/4, 2*2, 5-1, the end result is always the same.

All that really matters is what you’re going to do if and when that day comes.

By: Chris T in KY

Chris T in KY — Tue, 15 Jul 2025 14:12:19 +0000

Put a timer on it.

How long does it take to draw a gun when you need it?

And how long does it take to deploy PDW when you need it?