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		By: Jim Gettens		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Gettens]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/military/why-is-a-military-base-commander-defying-a-court-order-that-allows-civilian-access-to-its-shooting-ranges/comment-page-1/#comment-39828&quot;&gt;LKB&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s EXACTLY what we plan to do during the week of 19 May to 23 May. Motion for a Finding and Order of Contempt Under Fed.R.Civ.P 70; Memorandum of Law; and supporting Affidavit with attachments thereto are already done in draft form. Hollis and the Garrison Commander are fingered explicitly.

Jim Gettens
Treasurer, Ft. Devens Rifle &#038; Pistol Club, Inc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/military/why-is-a-military-base-commander-defying-a-court-order-that-allows-civilian-access-to-its-shooting-ranges/comment-page-1/#comment-39828">LKB</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s EXACTLY what we plan to do during the week of 19 May to 23 May. Motion for a Finding and Order of Contempt Under Fed.R.Civ.P 70; Memorandum of Law; and supporting Affidavit with attachments thereto are already done in draft form. Hollis and the Garrison Commander are fingered explicitly.</p>
<p>Jim Gettens<br />
Treasurer, Ft. Devens Rifle &amp; Pistol Club, Inc.</p>
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		By: Kevin Stich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Stich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 19:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see a court-martial in the Commander&#039;s future]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a court-martial in the Commander&#8217;s future</p>
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		By: Ron Lawrence		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Lawrence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 15:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just relieve him. End of problem!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just relieve him. End of problem!</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 20:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/military/why-is-a-military-base-commander-defying-a-court-order-that-allows-civilian-access-to-its-shooting-ranges/comment-page-1/#comment-39828&quot;&gt;LKB&lt;/a&gt;.

Relevant portion of the Court&#039;s ruling:

Until such time that the Army can arrive at a reasonable fee for the Club’s use of the Army’s firing ranges consistent with the adopted R&#038;R and can demonstrate the reasonableness of such fee—which will necessarily entail providing a breakdown of actual expenses in material and supply costs attributable to a non-DOD entity’s use of the firing ranges and an explanation as to how the fee was calculated—the Club is restored to its original position prior to October 2020, such that the Club’s members will be granted access to the firing ranges at no charge.

It appears to me that the base commander and DoD counsel are in clear violation of the last clause.  They haven&#039;t come up with the required report, and thus the order was that &quot;the Club’s members will be granted access to the firing ranges at no charge.&quot;   They clearly did not do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/military/why-is-a-military-base-commander-defying-a-court-order-that-allows-civilian-access-to-its-shooting-ranges/comment-page-1/#comment-39828">LKB</a>.</p>
<p>Relevant portion of the Court&#8217;s ruling:</p>
<p>Until such time that the Army can arrive at a reasonable fee for the Club’s use of the Army’s firing ranges consistent with the adopted R&amp;R and can demonstrate the reasonableness of such fee—which will necessarily entail providing a breakdown of actual expenses in material and supply costs attributable to a non-DOD entity’s use of the firing ranges and an explanation as to how the fee was calculated—the Club is restored to its original position prior to October 2020, such that the Club’s members will be granted access to the firing ranges at no charge.</p>
<p>It appears to me that the base commander and DoD counsel are in clear violation of the last clause.  They haven&#8217;t come up with the required report, and thus the order was that &#8220;the Club’s members will be granted access to the firing ranges at no charge.&#8221;   They clearly did not do so.</p>
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		By: Bucephalus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bucephalus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 20:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It figures- Ft Devens is in Massachusetts. John Adams is probably spinning in his grave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It figures- Ft Devens is in Massachusetts. John Adams is probably spinning in his grave.</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 20:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They should immediately file a motion for a Show Cause order, requiring the base commander and DoD attorney to personally appear and show cause why they should not be held in contempt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should immediately file a motion for a Show Cause order, requiring the base commander and DoD attorney to personally appear and show cause why they should not be held in contempt.</p>
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