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	Comments on: Highland Park Shooting Victim&#8217;s Family Sues Smith &#038; Wesson, Bud&#8217;s Guns	</title>
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		By: No one of Consequence		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No one of Consequence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 10:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4833&quot;&gt;Rusty - Moderated - Chains&lt;/a&gt;.

As I recall, Lucky Gunner (online ammo retailer for those who don&#039;t know ... and you should check out Lucky Gunner Labs) was awarded court costs. The people who sued them declared bankruptcy, so LG got nothing.

In such cases, the lawyers who took the case knowing its likely failure should pay, but somehow that will never become law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4833">Rusty &#8211; Moderated &#8211; Chains</a>.</p>
<p>As I recall, Lucky Gunner (online ammo retailer for those who don&#8217;t know &#8230; and you should check out Lucky Gunner Labs) was awarded court costs. The people who sued them declared bankruptcy, so LG got nothing.</p>
<p>In such cases, the lawyers who took the case knowing its likely failure should pay, but somehow that will never become law.</p>
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		By: Wray Epps		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wray Epps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 04:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The suit also involves Budgsunshop.com, LLC and Red Dot Arms, Inc. for selling the weapon to an individual prohibited from owning it.&quot;

I don&#039;t know what she&#039;s talking about. My understanding is that the rifle was purchased legally. I think the Illinois State Police screwed up because the local cops had info that the shooter was unstable, but they all followed the usual procedures. 

And the shooter&#039;s dad went to jail for a month because he signed for his son to get a Firearm Owners ID card while he was under 18, and later his son did the mass shooting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The suit also involves Budgsunshop.com, LLC and Red Dot Arms, Inc. for selling the weapon to an individual prohibited from owning it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what she&#8217;s talking about. My understanding is that the rifle was purchased legally. I think the Illinois State Police screwed up because the local cops had info that the shooter was unstable, but they all followed the usual procedures. </p>
<p>And the shooter&#8217;s dad went to jail for a month because he signed for his son to get a Firearm Owners ID card while he was under 18, and later his son did the mass shooting.</p>
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		By: Rusty - Moderated - Chains		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rusty - Moderated - Chains]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4803&quot;&gt;Nanashi&lt;/a&gt;.

We need an addendum to the law that states loser pays including all lawyer and expert witness fees as well as putting plaintiff lawyers and expert witnesses on the hook for those expenses. If they have a real case, fine if not the folks bringing the suit are going to regret it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4803">Nanashi</a>.</p>
<p>We need an addendum to the law that states loser pays including all lawyer and expert witness fees as well as putting plaintiff lawyers and expert witnesses on the hook for those expenses. If they have a real case, fine if not the folks bringing the suit are going to regret it.</p>
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		By: Zhang		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zhang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4803&quot;&gt;Nanashi&lt;/a&gt;.

Fuck the families. Stop deflecting blame. I wish nothing but more pain and suffering on them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4803">Nanashi</a>.</p>
<p>Fuck the families. Stop deflecting blame. I wish nothing but more pain and suffering on them.</p>
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		By: Darkman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4803&quot;&gt;Nanashi&lt;/a&gt;.

Unless the lawyers for S&#038;W and Bud&#039;s are idiots this is all the defense they need.
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Further protection under the Preemption Clause, (U.S. Constitution. art. VI., § 2). The Supreme Court also ruled that preemption doctrine comes from the supremacy clause. It states that federal law preempts state law when the laws conflict. Federal law also preempts state or local law if Congress intends to regulate an area and exclude the states. The purpose of the Protection of lawful Commence in Arms Act was passed in response to cities and individuals challenging the dangerous business practices of firearms manufacturers and retailers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4803">Nanashi</a>.</p>
<p>Unless the lawyers for S&amp;W and Bud&#8217;s are idiots this is all the defense they need.<br />
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Further protection under the Preemption Clause, (U.S. Constitution. art. VI., § 2). The Supreme Court also ruled that preemption doctrine comes from the supremacy clause. It states that federal law preempts state law when the laws conflict. Federal law also preempts state or local law if Congress intends to regulate an area and exclude the states. The purpose of the Protection of lawful Commence in Arms Act was passed in response to cities and individuals challenging the dangerous business practices of firearms manufacturers and retailers.</p>
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		By: Darkman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darkman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4792&quot;&gt;Geoff &quot;I&#039;m getting too old for this shit&quot; PR&lt;/a&gt;.

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Further protection under the Preemption Clause, (U.S. Constitution. art. VI., § 2).  The Supreme Court also ruled that preemption doctrine comes from the supremacy clause. It states that federal law preempts state law when the laws conflict. Federal law also preempts state or local law if Congress intends to regulate an area and exclude the states. The purpose of the Protection of lawful Commence in Arms Act  was passed in response to cities and individuals challenging the dangerous business practices of firearms manufacturers and retailers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4792">Geoff &#8220;I&#8217;m getting too old for this shit&#8221; PR</a>.</p>
<p>The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Further protection under the Preemption Clause, (U.S. Constitution. art. VI., § 2).  The Supreme Court also ruled that preemption doctrine comes from the supremacy clause. It states that federal law preempts state law when the laws conflict. Federal law also preempts state or local law if Congress intends to regulate an area and exclude the states. The purpose of the Protection of lawful Commence in Arms Act  was passed in response to cities and individuals challenging the dangerous business practices of firearms manufacturers and retailers.</p>
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		By: Nanashi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nanashi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4797&quot;&gt;Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

The lawyer and orgs that put them up to this should be held liable. They know there&#039;s no case, but decided to bring financial ruin to a victim for political points and/or their own enrichment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/highland-park-shooting-victims-family-sues-smith-wesson-buds-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-4797">Dude</a>.</p>
<p>The lawyer and orgs that put them up to this should be held liable. They know there&#8217;s no case, but decided to bring financial ruin to a victim for political points and/or their own enrichment.</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t it be wild if Smith &#038; Wesson and Bud&#039;s could successfully counter sue them? Is that even possible? 

I feel for their loss, but greed and/or vindictiveness aren&#039;t virtues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be wild if Smith &amp; Wesson and Bud&#8217;s could successfully counter sue them? Is that even possible? </p>
<p>I feel for their loss, but greed and/or vindictiveness aren&#8217;t virtues.</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The suit filed in Illinois state court on Friday alleges that the maker continued to market and sell its M&#038;P 15 and also pushed it on teenagers despite it being used in four mass shootings — including in Aurora, CO, San Bernardino, CA, Parkland, FL, and Poway, CA. — in the past decade.&quot;

In order for that logic to be consistent, Budweiser and the Ford motor corporation should be held financially-liable when drunk 20 year-olds driving Mustang GTs crash into a car and maim or kill someone inside.  Yet, they aren&#039;t.

Change my mind...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The suit filed in Illinois state court on Friday alleges that the maker continued to market and sell its M&amp;P 15 and also pushed it on teenagers despite it being used in four mass shootings — including in Aurora, CO, San Bernardino, CA, Parkland, FL, and Poway, CA. — in the past decade.&#8221;</p>
<p>In order for that logic to be consistent, Budweiser and the Ford motor corporation should be held financially-liable when drunk 20 year-olds driving Mustang GTs crash into a car and maim or kill someone inside.  Yet, they aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Change my mind&#8230;</p>
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