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	Comments on: Fifth Circuit Rules Marijuana Users Aren&#8217;t &#8216;Dangerous,&#8217; Can Possess Firearms When Sober	</title>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2024 02:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/fifth-circuit-rules-marijuana-users-arent-dangerous-can-possess-firearms-when-sober/comment-page-1/#comment-8364&quot;&gt;I Haz A Question&lt;/a&gt;.

I haven&#039;t really tested it because you can&#039;t edit the comments here, but it seems to be the exact same mod system that was in place at TTAG when Dan left. That means d-r-i-n-k / d-r-i-n-k-i-n-g is one of words that gets you moderated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/fifth-circuit-rules-marijuana-users-arent-dangerous-can-possess-firearms-when-sober/comment-page-1/#comment-8364">I Haz A Question</a>.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t really tested it because you can&#8217;t edit the comments here, but it seems to be the exact same mod system that was in place at TTAG when Dan left. That means d-r-i-n-k / d-r-i-n-k-i-n-g is one of words that gets you moderated.</p>
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		By: Darkman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2024 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tried to post a comment on this story and it refused to accept it. Numerous times. Just like on TTAG. Fortunately the censors at AMMOLAND still believe in free speech, especially when it is factual and provides helpful information to their readers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried to post a comment on this story and it refused to accept it. Numerous times. Just like on TTAG. Fortunately the censors at AMMOLAND still believe in free speech, especially when it is factual and provides helpful information to their readers.</p>
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		By: I Haz A Question		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Haz A Question]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nope.  Both times moderated.  Oh well.  I guess SNW is behaving the same as the old site was.  I&#039;m done for the week and will be back in a few days.  Don&#039;t have time for guessing and re-writing to get past the Moderation Police today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.  Both times moderated.  Oh well.  I guess SNW is behaving the same as the old site was.  I&#8217;m done for the week and will be back in a few days.  Don&#8217;t have time for guessing and re-writing to get past the Moderation Police today.</p>
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		By: I Haz A Question		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Haz A Question]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm.  Moderated.  I wonder if it&#039;s because I used the same words mentioned in the article?  Let&#039;s test this and see...by modifying the spelling of two words:

&lt;i&gt;And despite the DOJ’s arguments, mar!juana users aren’t inherently “dangerous.”&lt;/i&gt;

I’m going to catch some heat for this, but I’m adamant in my stance that mar!juana users can absolutely be dangerous, so let’s avoid overly broad strokes with this pro-2A conversation and try to argue they’re not. I’ve seen it myself several times. Watched a former co-worker (who reported to work high, as later proven in a drug test) put a forklift through a wall due to compromised ability to handle machinery. Knew another person (extended family relative) who was high lose his life as a result of his actions while stoned. And so on.

A person should absolutely be able to have a drink and own a gun. Want to go so far as to get drunk? Go ahead…just don’t handle a gun until you’re sober. Likewise, a person should be able to consume cannab!s and own a gun. Want to go so far as to get baked? Go ahead…just don’t handle a gun until you’re sober. People should not be prohibited from ownership just because they smoked a joint a while back, but carrying a deadly weapon is a deadly serious responsibility.

I myself will enjoy a good ale from time to time, but I carry, so I’m acutely aware of the potential of a DGU leading to charges or lawsuit against me. Any zealous D.A. would likely ask if I were under the influence of any substance at the time I had to defend myself. I would not want to be a defendant who fired his gun soon after toking a joint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  Moderated.  I wonder if it&#8217;s because I used the same words mentioned in the article?  Let&#8217;s test this and see&#8230;by modifying the spelling of two words:</p>
<p><i>And despite the DOJ’s arguments, mar!juana users aren’t inherently “dangerous.”</i></p>
<p>I’m going to catch some heat for this, but I’m adamant in my stance that mar!juana users can absolutely be dangerous, so let’s avoid overly broad strokes with this pro-2A conversation and try to argue they’re not. I’ve seen it myself several times. Watched a former co-worker (who reported to work high, as later proven in a drug test) put a forklift through a wall due to compromised ability to handle machinery. Knew another person (extended family relative) who was high lose his life as a result of his actions while stoned. And so on.</p>
<p>A person should absolutely be able to have a drink and own a gun. Want to go so far as to get drunk? Go ahead…just don’t handle a gun until you’re sober. Likewise, a person should be able to consume cannab!s and own a gun. Want to go so far as to get baked? Go ahead…just don’t handle a gun until you’re sober. People should not be prohibited from ownership just because they smoked a joint a while back, but carrying a deadly weapon is a deadly serious responsibility.</p>
<p>I myself will enjoy a good ale from time to time, but I carry, so I’m acutely aware of the potential of a DGU leading to charges or lawsuit against me. Any zealous D.A. would likely ask if I were under the influence of any substance at the time I had to defend myself. I would not want to be a defendant who fired his gun soon after toking a joint.</p>
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		By: I Haz A Question		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And despite the DOJ’s arguments, marijuana users aren’t inherently “dangerous.”&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m going to catch some heat for this, but I&#039;m adamant in my stance that marijuana users can absolutely be dangerous, so let&#039;s avoid overly broad strokes with this pro-2A conversation and try to argue they&#039;re not.  I&#039;ve seen it myself several times.  Watched a former co-worker (who reported to work high, as later proven in a drug test) put a forklift through a wall due to compromised ability to handle machinery.  Knew another person (extended family relative) who was high lose his life as a result of his actions while stoned.  And so on.

A person should absolutely be able to have a drink and own a gun.  Want to go so far as to get drunk?  Go ahead...just don&#039;t handle a gun until you&#039;re sober.  Likewise, a person should be able to consume cannabis and own a gun.  Want to go so far as to get baked?  Go ahead...just don&#039;t handle a gun until you&#039;re sober.  People should not be prohibited from ownership just because they smoked a joint a while back, but carrying a deadly weapon is a deadly serious responsibility.

I myself will enjoy a good ale from time to time, but I carry, so I&#039;m acutely aware of the potential of a DGU leading to charges or lawsuit against me.  Any zealous D.A. would likely ask if I were under the influence of any substance at the time I had to defend myself.  I would &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; want to be a defendant who fired his gun soon after toking a joint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And despite the DOJ’s arguments, marijuana users aren’t inherently “dangerous.”</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to catch some heat for this, but I&#8217;m adamant in my stance that marijuana users can absolutely be dangerous, so let&#8217;s avoid overly broad strokes with this pro-2A conversation and try to argue they&#8217;re not.  I&#8217;ve seen it myself several times.  Watched a former co-worker (who reported to work high, as later proven in a drug test) put a forklift through a wall due to compromised ability to handle machinery.  Knew another person (extended family relative) who was high lose his life as a result of his actions while stoned.  And so on.</p>
<p>A person should absolutely be able to have a drink and own a gun.  Want to go so far as to get drunk?  Go ahead&#8230;just don&#8217;t handle a gun until you&#8217;re sober.  Likewise, a person should be able to consume cannabis and own a gun.  Want to go so far as to get baked?  Go ahead&#8230;just don&#8217;t handle a gun until you&#8217;re sober.  People should not be prohibited from ownership just because they smoked a joint a while back, but carrying a deadly weapon is a deadly serious responsibility.</p>
<p>I myself will enjoy a good ale from time to time, but I carry, so I&#8217;m acutely aware of the potential of a DGU leading to charges or lawsuit against me.  Any zealous D.A. would likely ask if I were under the influence of any substance at the time I had to defend myself.  I would <b>not</b> want to be a defendant who fired his gun soon after toking a joint.</p>
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		By: Sam I Am		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/fifth-circuit-rules-marijuana-users-arent-dangerous-can-possess-firearms-when-sober/comment-page-1/#comment-8320&quot;&gt;LKB&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;(e.g., Rahimi, the recent machinegun case, etc.),&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Rahimi seems to have provided a path around Bruen. Rather than strict adherence to Bruen, SC created a new analysis/standard where &quot;kinda/sorta/close enough&quot; is sufficient for &quot;text, tradition, history&quot;; preponderance of the evidence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/law/fifth-circuit-rules-marijuana-users-arent-dangerous-can-possess-firearms-when-sober/comment-page-1/#comment-8320">LKB</a>.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;(e.g., Rahimi, the recent machinegun case, etc.),&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Rahimi seems to have provided a path around Bruen. Rather than strict adherence to Bruen, SC created a new analysis/standard where &#8220;kinda/sorta/close enough&#8221; is sufficient for &#8220;text, tradition, history&#8221;; preponderance of the evidence.</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 02:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i&#039;ll give it a try --------1 -  second hand smoke, (starting with tobacco products), is known affect those near by, probably more in an enclosed structure.
                                   2 -  the spouse of the smoker was observed at a neighbor&#039;s dwelling, firing a shotgun, (something else that i am sure is known to affect others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll give it a try &#8212;&#8212;&#8211;1 &#8211;  second hand smoke, (starting with tobacco products), is known affect those near by, probably more in an enclosed structure.<br />
                                   2 &#8211;  the spouse of the smoker was observed at a neighbor&#8217;s dwelling, firing a shotgun, (something else that i am sure is known to affect others.</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not so sure the government will actually appeal this one.  The last thing the current administration wants is give SCOTUS an &quot;easy&quot; Bruen test case like this -- I think they want to try and take up cases where a straightforward application of Bruen will yield results that will make Barrett and Roberts (and perhaps Kavanaugh) queasy (e.g., Rahimi, the recent machinegun case, etc.), and thus hope to further weaken the strict application of Bruen.

Plus, the feds have 90 days to file a cert petition.   If PDT wins the election, the last thing the current DoJ would want is a pending cert petition that would be argued *after* they leave office, which the incoming administration could do a swan dive on and thus cause an expansion of Bruen.   Better for them to wait and see who wins the election, and if PDT does then they would allow the cert clock to expire before they leave office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure the government will actually appeal this one.  The last thing the current administration wants is give SCOTUS an &#8220;easy&#8221; Bruen test case like this &#8212; I think they want to try and take up cases where a straightforward application of Bruen will yield results that will make Barrett and Roberts (and perhaps Kavanaugh) queasy (e.g., Rahimi, the recent machinegun case, etc.), and thus hope to further weaken the strict application of Bruen.</p>
<p>Plus, the feds have 90 days to file a cert petition.   If PDT wins the election, the last thing the current DoJ would want is a pending cert petition that would be argued *after* they leave office, which the incoming administration could do a swan dive on and thus cause an expansion of Bruen.   Better for them to wait and see who wins the election, and if PDT does then they would allow the cert clock to expire before they leave office.</p>
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