So no tax collected on any item renders the item void for a “tax” bill without explicit removal otherwise it is juat a regestration schemw

Where is the equaly apotioned among thr people as required of all taxes.

The purpose of the judicial system today is to increase and maintain government power over the docile flock known as “We the People”.

The argument for declaring the firearm tax not a tax is that in general, people have come to accept the NFA “tax” is not a “tax”, as everyone thinks of taxes (income taxes, sales taxes), because it applies to so few people among the populace (ask the next ten people you meet what is the meaning of “excise tax”). In effect, the NFA taxes don’t affect the wide public, and thus not a tax for purposes of budget reconciliation.

More detail on what is dropped would be nice. So the tax can go, but is it fair to suggest that the hearing protection act removing silencers from the NFA is going to be dropped?

OK, brief ‘kinda update’ … They have chosen the ‘compromise/sacrifice’ route in an attempt to avoid cloture 60 vote in the senate. 7 things removed as of late yesterday, a big speed bump removed by removing the public lands stuff. Some ‘hair splitting’ going on, the parliamentarian sill slicing-n-dicing – members have been told they are not going home until this is done and to get ready for another weekend session, so this signals the parliamentarian is still hacking away at it.

Grosjean v. American Press Co postdates the NFA and held that a much, much smaller tax on newspapers was anti 1A. For some reason nobody seems to have tried to apply this precedent to the NFA

Don’t be so sure they will abandon the other provisions. They might compromise to keep them in by removing the HPA and/or Short act.

Not trying to be a party popper….but this is the reality of trying to cram everything into a reconciliation bill, the fragile nature of it before passing makes it vulnerable to ‘stuff happens’.

Some good questions

But I would say that Congress does have the power to pass unlimited taxes, and it’s not un-American, democratically elected representatives deciding tax policy is the structure defined by the constitution.

Sure, the courts can strike down measures that are ruled unconstitutional, and presidents can be lackadaisical about enforcing particular laws, but Congress can still pass the legislation and have it signed into law by the executive branch.

Reminds me of a little skirmish this country went thru a couple hundred years ago.
That was interesting times I’m sure. Something about “taxation without representation “…
Yes, colonial taxation was mostly tariffs & excise taxes, but vs today’s tax burden on US citizens…?!?
I would posit that we pay vastly more taxes today, AND it’s happened to us WITH representation !
“Death by a thousand cuts” kind of thing.

Interesting that being a professional politician ensures you a life of financial growth.
Both from self-voted pay & benefit increases, and graft.