@fppf,

I appreciate your civil reply, as some comment threads in forums can become downright acrimonious. Thank you.

But yes, we do disagree on the sanctity of innocent human life.

My comment above should be here, replying to fppf.

Edit function, Dan. Please

@fppf
“abortion is nasty business”

Why are you calling it “nasty business?” It’s only a medical procedure to remove an unwanted growth of cells. Is having a mole removed “nasty business?” Are women traumatized after getting a mole removed? You’re stuck in the early 90s abortion mindset. You didn’t get the memo that the talking points have changed. Remember in ’92 when Bill Clinton said abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare?” Whoa, hold on. Stop the press! Rare? Why should “women’s healthcare” be “rare?” That’s because people understood that you were ending a life. That’s why they had to change the discussion. They had to ditch the rare part. That’s why they eventually evolved into “shouting” their abortion. Be proud of it! It’s either a good thing, or it’s a bad thing. They weren’t about to let people believe that it’s a bad thing, or a necessary evil, or “nasty business.” Because then people might begin to question the ethics of the procedure, like the doctor I mentioned above who eventually admitted that it was wrong. Then the culture would change. Then society would change. As the Puppet says, “It’s a big F’n deal.”

As far as objective science goes, the baby is alive. It isn’t something that is even debatable. The debate only revolves around whether we’re legally allowed to end that life. When you end someone’s life, you are killing them. That’s an objective fact. Words have meaning. We often don’t think of it as murder because our culture has taught us that this behavior is to be tolerated. Not only that, but it is “necessary.” It is “healthcare.” It is a “woman’s right.” In other news, propaganda still works. Food for thought, fppf.

I understand your view on this; abortion is nasty business. but will have to respectfully disagree that it’s murder. that said we both know we won’t reach consensus on this one so i’ll just say i’m happy we all agree about the fundamental right to self defense outside the womb.

@fppf,

True, Guv needs to be rolled back and minimized. But Dude beat me to it and provided a good response already.

A government of the people, by the people, and for the people most certainly does have an interest in preventing murder. Calling it women’s healthcare is repeating Leftist propaganda.

how about we leave the government out of it and let people decide what to do in the privacy of their own home (or doctor office.) just like guns! it’s not inconsistent at-it’s about keeping the government out of places it doesn’t belong.

do you also support free birth control for all?

“I hope someone with a brain who isn’t in their 80’s…”

Jason, I’m not sure if you’re a covert propagandist or if you’re just highly susceptible to the Left’s propaganda. Saying Joe Biden has a problem because of his age is propaganda designed to hide the fact that he is in a state of severe mental decline. Notice how the polls aren’t, “Do you think Biden is cognitively impaired?” No, it’s more like, “Do you think Biden is too old?” Then, when people say he’s too old, they pivot to the fact that he’s barely older than Trump. See how that works? I always wondered how many people are fooled by that propaganda.