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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-news/back-in-black-the-murdered-out-springfield-emissary/comment-page-1/#comment-1007&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

Yup.   FxF (ideally with siminutions or some other means that generates a “pain penalty” for gettin shot) with video after action review is a good way to understand first-hand the physiological things that happen to you under stress (loss of fine motor control, tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, short term memory loss, etc.).    But as the FxF trainer reminded us when I took the course, the dose of adrenaline we were getting in the training, while educational, was nothing compared to what we’d get if it were for real.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-news/back-in-black-the-murdered-out-springfield-emissary/comment-page-1/#comment-1007">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>Yup.   FxF (ideally with siminutions or some other means that generates a “pain penalty” for gettin shot) with video after action review is a good way to understand first-hand the physiological things that happen to you under stress (loss of fine motor control, tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, short term memory loss, etc.).    But as the FxF trainer reminded us when I took the course, the dose of adrenaline we were getting in the training, while educational, was nothing compared to what we’d get if it were for real.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2024 12:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Small motor functions are first guests to leave all adrenaline dump parties. Defensive shooting is different from competition. Unsteady hands and light triggers lead to bad outcomes. I want up on a target quickly, with the assurance my trigger won’t “self-press under stress.”&quot;

That is 100% true, and I can personally attest to that and its a scientifically proven biological response called the &#039;stress response&#039;. During an actual defense incident stress response you are going to loses all awareness of body movement for a period of time, Its a result of the &#039;stress response&#039; where the the sympathetic nervous system takes over and suppresses the parasympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system doesn&#039;t allow for awareness of body movement, it gets the body to react, so something small like &#039;trigger&#039; pressure you are not going to be aware of. Because of this you will need to keep track of your body movements your self, its not naturally automatic like it is when the parasympathetic nervous system is in charge, the parasympathetic nervous system is what allows you to be aware of body movement among other things - so under stress response you will need to consciously keep track of your body movements yourself and even then that &#039;sense&#039; is going to be dulled somewhat and finer &#039;awareness logic&#039; things like sensing the amount of pressure on the trigger is going to be gone for a period of time and this results in what the article calls “self-press under stress” with light triggers.

So under stress response you do not want a light trigger that offers little resistance to finger trigger pull, you want a trigger that&#039;s going to remind you that you are pulling the trigger and that means a heavy trigger (e.g. 5 lb trigger pull (or more), which is just about where the average person under stress response can consciously recognize a trigger pull under stress response) offering a larger amount of resistance to help you consciously keep track of your movement to pull the trigger.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Small motor functions are first guests to leave all adrenaline dump parties. Defensive shooting is different from competition. Unsteady hands and light triggers lead to bad outcomes. I want up on a target quickly, with the assurance my trigger won’t “self-press under stress.”&#8221;</p>
<p>That is 100% true, and I can personally attest to that and its a scientifically proven biological response called the &#8216;stress response&#8217;. During an actual defense incident stress response you are going to loses all awareness of body movement for a period of time, Its a result of the &#8216;stress response&#8217; where the the sympathetic nervous system takes over and suppresses the parasympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system doesn&#8217;t allow for awareness of body movement, it gets the body to react, so something small like &#8216;trigger&#8217; pressure you are not going to be aware of. Because of this you will need to keep track of your body movements your self, its not naturally automatic like it is when the parasympathetic nervous system is in charge, the parasympathetic nervous system is what allows you to be aware of body movement among other things &#8211; so under stress response you will need to consciously keep track of your body movements yourself and even then that &#8216;sense&#8217; is going to be dulled somewhat and finer &#8216;awareness logic&#8217; things like sensing the amount of pressure on the trigger is going to be gone for a period of time and this results in what the article calls “self-press under stress” with light triggers.</p>
<p>So under stress response you do not want a light trigger that offers little resistance to finger trigger pull, you want a trigger that&#8217;s going to remind you that you are pulling the trigger and that means a heavy trigger (e.g. 5 lb trigger pull (or more), which is just about where the average person under stress response can consciously recognize a trigger pull under stress response) offering a larger amount of resistance to help you consciously keep track of your movement to pull the trigger.</p>
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		By: Dad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2024 00:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-news/back-in-black-the-murdered-out-springfield-emissary/comment-page-1/#comment-995&quot;&gt;LKB&lt;/a&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-news/back-in-black-the-murdered-out-springfield-emissary/comment-page-1/#comment-995">LKB</a>.</p>
<p>👍👌</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 21:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Continued hard pass on anything from these traitors.

Do not forget.
Do not forgive.
Springfield delenda est.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued hard pass on anything from these traitors.</p>
<p>Do not forget.<br />
Do not forgive.<br />
Springfield delenda est.</p>
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