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	Comments on: Where One of America&#8217;s Most Virulent Anti-Gun Physicians Gets His, Uh, &#8216;Data&#8217;	</title>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-nation/where-one-of-americas-most-virulent-anti-gun-physicians-gets-his-uh-data/comment-page-1/#comment-122719&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

Plus, Nance and his team, like all anti-gun organizations still relay on a lot of false logic &#039;correlation = causality&#039;. For example, in their &#039;study&#039; called &quot;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot;, aside from using their standard &#039;cookie cutter&#039; &#039;change title and plug stuff in&#039; pattern, they says this: &quot;CHOP researchers find children are particularly vulnerable, with most mass shootings happening more than 10 miles from a pediatric trauma center&quot; implying (and basing on) the false logic &#039;correlation = causality&#039; that because something happens (they claim) &quot;10 miles from a pediatric trauma center&quot; that children are &quot;particularly vulnerable&quot; to &#039;mass shootings&#039;.

I got news for you, nationwide more than 90,000 children, age 12 and under, are injured (and some die at the scene or later, and some left permanently disabled in some aspect) every year in car accidents. Were those children somehow more safe and less vulnerable because they may have been within 10 miles of a pediatric trauma center? There is no &#039;correlation = causality&#039; like Nance and his team claim in their &#039;study&#039; &quot;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot;. The false logic &#039;correlation = causality&#039; has been a staple of the anti-gun organizations and people for many years, its been disguised in many forms but its still always there. 

Nance and his team use a standard &#039;template&#039; for their studies, its a &#039;cookie cutter&#039; &#039;change title and plug stuff in&#039; pattern. Their studies are always full of a lot of ‘assuming’ based upon coincidence and false logic &#039;correlation = causality&#039;. In the study &quot;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot; you can see it again just as I pointed out with their study “Locations of Mass Shootings Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children” --- &quot;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot; could very well be &quot;Most Car Accidents Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot; or &quot;Most Child Poisonings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot; or &quot;Most Suicides Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot;. Its just a matter of title change and plugging in the data using the same biased methodology they use for all their studies and leaving out confounding variables and other relevant data, for example, in the study &quot;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&quot; they again use &#039;distance&#039; like they used for their study “Locations of Mass Shootings Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children” and again leave out accounting for confounding variables. Its &#039;junk science&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-nation/where-one-of-americas-most-virulent-anti-gun-physicians-gets-his-uh-data/comment-page-1/#comment-122719">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>Plus, Nance and his team, like all anti-gun organizations still relay on a lot of false logic &#8216;correlation = causality&#8217;. For example, in their &#8216;study&#8217; called &#8220;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221;, aside from using their standard &#8216;cookie cutter&#8217; &#8216;change title and plug stuff in&#8217; pattern, they says this: &#8220;CHOP researchers find children are particularly vulnerable, with most mass shootings happening more than 10 miles from a pediatric trauma center&#8221; implying (and basing on) the false logic &#8216;correlation = causality&#8217; that because something happens (they claim) &#8220;10 miles from a pediatric trauma center&#8221; that children are &#8220;particularly vulnerable&#8221; to &#8216;mass shootings&#8217;.</p>
<p>I got news for you, nationwide more than 90,000 children, age 12 and under, are injured (and some die at the scene or later, and some left permanently disabled in some aspect) every year in car accidents. Were those children somehow more safe and less vulnerable because they may have been within 10 miles of a pediatric trauma center? There is no &#8216;correlation = causality&#8217; like Nance and his team claim in their &#8216;study&#8217; &#8220;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221;. The false logic &#8216;correlation = causality&#8217; has been a staple of the anti-gun organizations and people for many years, its been disguised in many forms but its still always there. </p>
<p>Nance and his team use a standard &#8216;template&#8217; for their studies, its a &#8216;cookie cutter&#8217; &#8216;change title and plug stuff in&#8217; pattern. Their studies are always full of a lot of ‘assuming’ based upon coincidence and false logic &#8216;correlation = causality&#8217;. In the study &#8220;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221; you can see it again just as I pointed out with their study “Locations of Mass Shootings Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children” &#8212; &#8220;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221; could very well be &#8220;Most Car Accidents Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221; or &#8220;Most Child Poisonings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221; or &#8220;Most Suicides Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221;. Its just a matter of title change and plugging in the data using the same biased methodology they use for all their studies and leaving out confounding variables and other relevant data, for example, in the study &#8220;Most Mass Shootings Occur Closest to Hospitals without Verification to Treat Trauma&#8221; they again use &#8216;distance&#8217; like they used for their study “Locations of Mass Shootings Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children” and again leave out accounting for confounding variables. Its &#8216;junk science&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Timothy Wheeler, MD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Wheeler, MD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 03:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another piece of excellent reporting by Lee Williams.  The tradition of gun-grabbing at Children&#039;s Hospital of Philadelphia goes all the way back to C. Everett Koop.  Nance is the latest in a long line of ivory tower academic medical grandees who long ago whored out their academic credibility in the service of gun prohibition politics.  These advocacy &quot;researchers&quot; cherry pick data, stretch definitions (e.g., categorizing &quot;children&quot; to include late teens and as old as 24, including the prime age group for violent gangbangers), and ignore or suppress conflicting data, always juicing their message with a fake appeal to the welfare of &quot;the children.&quot;

In 1996 our group of pro-gun doctors worked with the gun lobby to get Congress to defund the CDC&#039;s garbage anti-gun advocacy.  President Trump has indicated his willingness to once again cut federal funding for all manner of anti-constitutional, anti-American advocacy research and similar activities at American universities.  Sounds as though we need to take a fresh look at how many millions of taxpayer dollars are being gifted to Nance and Children&#039;s Hospital of Philadelphia.  It should be zeroed out.

Timothy Wheeler, MD
Director Emeritus
Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another piece of excellent reporting by Lee Williams.  The tradition of gun-grabbing at Children&#8217;s Hospital of Philadelphia goes all the way back to C. Everett Koop.  Nance is the latest in a long line of ivory tower academic medical grandees who long ago whored out their academic credibility in the service of gun prohibition politics.  These advocacy &#8220;researchers&#8221; cherry pick data, stretch definitions (e.g., categorizing &#8220;children&#8221; to include late teens and as old as 24, including the prime age group for violent gangbangers), and ignore or suppress conflicting data, always juicing their message with a fake appeal to the welfare of &#8220;the children.&#8221;</p>
<p>In 1996 our group of pro-gun doctors worked with the gun lobby to get Congress to defund the CDC&#8217;s garbage anti-gun advocacy.  President Trump has indicated his willingness to once again cut federal funding for all manner of anti-constitutional, anti-American advocacy research and similar activities at American universities.  Sounds as though we need to take a fresh look at how many millions of taxpayer dollars are being gifted to Nance and Children&#8217;s Hospital of Philadelphia.  It should be zeroed out.</p>
<p>Timothy Wheeler, MD<br />
Director Emeritus<br />
Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership</p>
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		By: 80D		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 17:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-nation/where-one-of-americas-most-virulent-anti-gun-physicians-gets-his-uh-data/comment-page-1/#comment-122719&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

Gotta work that &quot;for the children&quot; shtick in somewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-nation/where-one-of-americas-most-virulent-anti-gun-physicians-gets-his-uh-data/comment-page-1/#comment-122719">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>Gotta work that &#8220;for the children&#8221; shtick in somewhere.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 14:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read some of the stuff from Nance and his team. A lot of &#039;assuming&#039; based upon coincidence too. For example, &quot;Locations of Mass Shootings Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&quot; could also be &quot;Locations of Car Accidents Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&quot; or &quot;Locations of Rain Puddles After It Rains Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&quot;. In other words, you can plug in just about anything because in modern cities there is basically no area that is not &quot;Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&#039; in terms of distance as &#039;population&#039; in modern cities tend to be more around such areas because such areas also include included athletic fields, playgrounds, parks, recreation centers, zoos, shopping centers, etc... - confounding variables they failed to account for which is something commonly left out of anti-gun studies because they tend to show their &#039;analysis&#039; to be biased.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read some of the stuff from Nance and his team. A lot of &#8216;assuming&#8217; based upon coincidence too. For example, &#8220;Locations of Mass Shootings Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&#8221; could also be &#8220;Locations of Car Accidents Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&#8221; or &#8220;Locations of Rain Puddles After It Rains Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&#8221;. In other words, you can plug in just about anything because in modern cities there is basically no area that is not &#8220;Relative to Schools and Places Frequented by Children&#8217; in terms of distance as &#8216;population&#8217; in modern cities tend to be more around such areas because such areas also include included athletic fields, playgrounds, parks, recreation centers, zoos, shopping centers, etc&#8230; &#8211; confounding variables they failed to account for which is something commonly left out of anti-gun studies because they tend to show their &#8216;analysis&#8217; to be biased.</p>
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