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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2024 16:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3943&quot;&gt;LifeSavor&lt;/a&gt;.

Emotion over logic, the hallmark of a modern day lib.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3943">LifeSavor</a>.</p>
<p>Emotion over logic, the hallmark of a modern day lib.</p>
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		By: LifeSavor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LifeSavor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2024 15:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bluster, one of my many progressive neighbors, has been complaining about SCOTUS&#039; &quot;pro-gun&#039; stance. He went so far as to say that any Justice that owns guns or has family members who own guns, should be forced to recuse themselves from 2nd Amendment cases.

I asked him whether Justices who own homes should recuse themselves from real estate  related cases. He said &quot;No, because houses aren&#039;t dangerous and everyone needs a place to live&quot;.

So, there you have it.

BTW, I call him &#039;Bluster&#039; because he likes to yell about Trump. We actually get along very well. I clear the snow from his walks and driveway because he cannot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bluster, one of my many progressive neighbors, has been complaining about SCOTUS&#8217; &#8220;pro-gun&#8217; stance. He went so far as to say that any Justice that owns guns or has family members who own guns, should be forced to recuse themselves from 2nd Amendment cases.</p>
<p>I asked him whether Justices who own homes should recuse themselves from real estate  related cases. He said &#8220;No, because houses aren&#8217;t dangerous and everyone needs a place to live&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, there you have it.</p>
<p>BTW, I call him &#8216;Bluster&#8217; because he likes to yell about Trump. We actually get along very well. I clear the snow from his walks and driveway because he cannot.</p>
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		By: IN Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IN Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2024 13:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@LKB, another fantastic write up, no surprise there but it is much appreciated. Correct me if I am wrong but people of the gun seemed to gain slightly more ground from the dissenting side then from the Thomas opinion. I have seen that Justice Sotomayor said “He did so by affixing a bump stock to commonly available, semiautomatic rifles”. I may be incorrect but aren’t most court arguments for AWB because they are claiming the guns are not in common use?  Can this be used in upcoming court cases to debunk and allow strict scrutiny that bruen has suggested?  And if Congress and whitehouse does cave and ban bumpstocks is there a possibility that it is struck down again by bruen, even with Justice Alito concurrence remarks?  Thanks again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LKB, another fantastic write up, no surprise there but it is much appreciated. Correct me if I am wrong but people of the gun seemed to gain slightly more ground from the dissenting side then from the Thomas opinion. I have seen that Justice Sotomayor said “He did so by affixing a bump stock to commonly available, semiautomatic rifles”. I may be incorrect but aren’t most court arguments for AWB because they are claiming the guns are not in common use?  Can this be used in upcoming court cases to debunk and allow strict scrutiny that bruen has suggested?  And if Congress and whitehouse does cave and ban bumpstocks is there a possibility that it is struck down again by bruen, even with Justice Alito concurrence remarks?  Thanks again.</p>
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		By: SAFEupstateFML		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SAFEupstateFML]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2024 00:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3914&quot;&gt;Geoff &quot;I&#039;m getting too old for this shit&quot; PR&lt;/a&gt;.

Now that would make for some interesting reading..... especially when we have a NYC case regarding 80% (as well as our nonsense permit to touch let alone own a pistol).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3914">Geoff &#8220;I&#8217;m getting too old for this shit&#8221; PR</a>.</p>
<p>Now that would make for some interesting reading&#8230;.. especially when we have a NYC case regarding 80% (as well as our nonsense permit to touch let alone own a pistol).</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3895&quot;&gt;I Haz A Thought&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I think that any attempts to formally open up the definitions within the NFA would argumentatively expose other items to re-definition as well by pro-2A groups,...&quot;

Suppressors are little regulated in Europe, often simply cash-and-carry, exploit that to get cans off the NFA entirely.  They say they want European gun laws here, lets make &#039;em choke on that...  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3895">I Haz A Thought</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that any attempts to formally open up the definitions within the NFA would argumentatively expose other items to re-definition as well by pro-2A groups,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Suppressors are little regulated in Europe, often simply cash-and-carry, exploit that to get cans off the NFA entirely.  They say they want European gun laws here, lets make &#8217;em choke on that&#8230;  🙂</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 23:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3894&quot;&gt;LKB&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; But I also suspect that the Dems will similarly try to add the arm brace and “frame or receiver” rules to the statute. This could get messy.&quot;

If I&#039;m not mistaken, &#039;Bruen&#039; held that the only constitutional gun laws were those in effect in the late 1700s.

Factory-built guns were eye-watering expensive back then, so the colonists often imported the critical lockworks from Europe and forged their barrels here.  That seems to me to be a perfectly analogous fit with today&#039;s 80-percent &#039;frame and receiver kits being sold today, no?  Home-building was going on from nearly day one, it seems to me., but I&#039;m no lawyer...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3894">LKB</a>.</p>
<p>&#8221; But I also suspect that the Dems will similarly try to add the arm brace and “frame or receiver” rules to the statute. This could get messy.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken, &#8216;Bruen&#8217; held that the only constitutional gun laws were those in effect in the late 1700s.</p>
<p>Factory-built guns were eye-watering expensive back then, so the colonists often imported the critical lockworks from Europe and forged their barrels here.  That seems to me to be a perfectly analogous fit with today&#8217;s 80-percent &#8216;frame and receiver kits being sold today, no?  Home-building was going on from nearly day one, it seems to me., but I&#8217;m no lawyer&#8230;</p>
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		By: John Kevlock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Kevlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 21:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget that the Fudds sold us down the river with the NFA and the FFA.  Never back down on the RKBA:  it&#039;s not the right to keep and bear toys and sporting goods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that the Fudds sold us down the river with the NFA and the FFA.  Never back down on the RKBA:  it&#8217;s not the right to keep and bear toys and sporting goods.</p>
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		By: I Haz A Thought		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Haz A Thought]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 16:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3890&quot;&gt;Geoff &quot;I&#039;m getting too old for this shit&quot; PR&lt;/a&gt;.

I think that any attempts to formally open up the definitions within the NFA would argumentatively expose other items to re-definition as well by pro-2A groups, and the Congress critters know that (well, maybe not AOC and her lower IQ ilk).  So this may go in that direction, or it may not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3890">Geoff &#8220;I&#8217;m getting too old for this shit&#8221; PR</a>.</p>
<p>I think that any attempts to formally open up the definitions within the NFA would argumentatively expose other items to re-definition as well by pro-2A groups, and the Congress critters know that (well, maybe not AOC and her lower IQ ilk).  So this may go in that direction, or it may not.</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3890&quot;&gt;Geoff &quot;I&#039;m getting too old for this shit&quot; PR&lt;/a&gt;.

WRT reopening the registry, I&#039;d hope that if it looks like the votes are there in both houses to add bump stocks to the NFA (and thanks to a lot of GOP squishes, there likely are), the GOP leadership would at least try and horse trade something for it -- getting rid of the Hughes Amendment, fully reopening the MG registry, etc.    But I also suspect that the Dems will similarly try to add the arm brace and &quot;frame or receiver&quot; rules to the statute.   This could get messy.

But other than blocking Garland from a confirmation vote, the current GOP caucus leadership has never demonstrated are sort of backbone or strategy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/what-todays-ruling-in-cargill-means-for-the-2a-and-other-gun-related-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-3890">Geoff &#8220;I&#8217;m getting too old for this shit&#8221; PR</a>.</p>
<p>WRT reopening the registry, I&#8217;d hope that if it looks like the votes are there in both houses to add bump stocks to the NFA (and thanks to a lot of GOP squishes, there likely are), the GOP leadership would at least try and horse trade something for it &#8212; getting rid of the Hughes Amendment, fully reopening the MG registry, etc.    But I also suspect that the Dems will similarly try to add the arm brace and &#8220;frame or receiver&#8221; rules to the statute.   This could get messy.</p>
<p>But other than blocking Garland from a confirmation vote, the current GOP caucus leadership has never demonstrated are sort of backbone or strategy.</p>
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		By: Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 16:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But I do suspect we will now see a concerted effort in Congress to formally add bump stocks to the NFA.&quot;

All it takes is for them to hold all three, House, Senate, and White House, and they can add them to the NFA.

Would that also mean that re-opens the select fire registry?

On an unrelated note, did your eyebrows rise when Kagan and the &#039;Wise Latina&#039; (*gag*) voted with the majority on the Starbucks case? Only Jackson dissented. I found that... Interesting...  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I do suspect we will now see a concerted effort in Congress to formally add bump stocks to the NFA.&#8221;</p>
<p>All it takes is for them to hold all three, House, Senate, and White House, and they can add them to the NFA.</p>
<p>Would that also mean that re-opens the select fire registry?</p>
<p>On an unrelated note, did your eyebrows rise when Kagan and the &#8216;Wise Latina&#8217; (*gag*) voted with the majority on the Starbucks case? Only Jackson dissented. I found that&#8230; Interesting&#8230;  😉</p>
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