“What gets my goat is that the director stated he will refuse to comply with the law if passed. If that does not strike you as being non patriotic then we lost America already.”

Many consider defying the law as patriotic.

1773 comes to mind.

That gave me a good laugh.
Big(smile)

“Pretty much, if it offends that sucks but can you refute it?”

Isn’t it irrelevant to refute someone’s contention? “Free Speech” allows for refuting a statement, but is one required to refute a statement?

If not may be worth considering why.

Indeed. However…..considering the “why” of a statement is quite beyond the intellect of way too many voters (hard work, doanchaknow).

“For better or worse I learn a lot on shit I don’t agree with.”

As we all should.

“Also was that actually an attempt on consensus building/….”

Not at all. An attempt to get people to abandon any notion that stats and data can persuade the anti-gun drones to magnanimously end their desire to make us all serfs and vassals.

Oh my god, I stopped reading after that wired different baloney. Get over yourself, you joined for the same reason everyone else did; free college, lying to get benefits, and free Applebee’s once a year.

I’m sure you practice that run towards gunfire crap in the mirror so you can try to look like a big man when someone kicks that pedestal out from under you.

X Marks the Spot, You say that you have no Problem with this Issue considering how many Veterans Lie about PTSD. Are you a Veteran? People that join that Military are not regular people for the most part because we are wired different since we run toward GUNFIRE when everyone else RUNSAWAY from it! That being said, while on Active Duty most Service Members work an average of 14-18 hours per day and sometimes more. My personal record is 42 hours straight of launching and recovering aircraft. That was accomplished thanks to lots of Caffeine and a constant supply of Protein from MRE that we had on the Flight Line one of the Tow Tractors. We do the work because we love this Country and if needed we would SACRAFICE ourselves for it! The amount of work and conditions the work is done in would be ILLEGAL under OSHA LAW but we still do it because it has to be done and it is not right for some paper pushing administrator to put so many obstacles in the way for a Veteran to get what is due to them for their SACRAFACES while on Active Duty!
The 4473 form question 21G asks:
Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?
If a Veteran has not been Adjudicated by a Judge in a Court of Law then the VA has NO RIGHT to give that Information and it just another way for the Left to Restrict the Second Amendment to Veterans. While Military Service members are on Active Duty we are Restricted from many of our US Constitutional Rights and live under a totally different set of rules that Civilians have NO Idea about. I Proudly Served in the US NAVY for 7 years (2002-2009) until a Service Connected accident put me in a wheelchair and then I had an 8 years of fighting with the VA to get the majority of my benefits and that was with a lawyer that took 30% of the owed backpay. My VA fight was caused thanks to an Order Given by the 44th POTUS and Leftwing leaning Medical Officers that decided to take out Extremely Important Medical Record Pages OUT of Medical Records just before Separation so Veterans like myself would not have the proper documentation when it was time for the intake VA Physical where I was told to sit down and shut up because the Doctor had 3 hours worth physical to do but only had 45 minutes to do in because he had a to go to lunch and when I asked to see another doctor I was told he was it and the next available appointment was 8 months down the line. I was one of over 25,000 Military Service Members that were separated from July 1 to December 31, 2009 that were SCREWED OVER by both DOD and VA because the left wanted to save money. If I had not found a US Air Force Tech Sargent at an Air Force hospital that was nice enough to go into the Archive System and download and Print my Entire Medical Record I would still be fighting the VA. I also have to Thank President Trump for helping CLEAN UP allot of the B.S. Red Tape that was put in place by his predecessor.

The VA System is setup in a way so that the Veteran will be DEAD by the time all the RED TAPE is done because it saves the Agency MONEY so the Managers and Administrators can get large Bonuses when their Quarterly and Annual Veteran Benefits releases are LOW! Just because a Veteran Decided to Sign a Contract to Protect and Defend this Country does not mean that we should get SCREWED OVER and have NO RIGHTS.
Yes, there are some Veterans that are not 100% truthful about their injuries, I see it all the time in the parking lot at the VA Hospital with guys that supposedly cannot walk but they are stepping out a Low to the Ground Sports Car put together their own wheelchair then roll themselves into the hospital and that is not right but neither is having rights taken away by an Agency without a Court Hearing.

Pretty much, if it offends that sucks but can you refute it? If not may be worth considering why. For better or worse I learn a lot on shit I don’t agree with. Also was that actually an attempt on consensus building/cracking in a limited visibility forum without a vote option?

“Crawl back to stormfront or whatever other neonazi circle jerk you came from. Your racist views are extreme and outside the mainstream of US gunowners.”

Actually…..no. The 1st amendment says nothing about expressing personal and/or political views, theories, preferences, prejudices being regulated by government if, as, and when someone else’s sensitivities are offended. There is no room here for people who believe the !st should prohibit/abolish speech that insults, or hurts feelings. Asking about details of a two-tiered justice/legal/political system is ipse dixit infringing on free speech.

We are all defenders of the First Amendment, until it comes to words we don’t like.

Heat, kitchen, that sort of thing.