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		By: Henry Young		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2025 22:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Will Section 70436 allow me to install a standard AR 15 telescoptic rifle stock on my AR 15 pistol?]]></description>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 02:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FPC was alerted to a severe problem on page 92 of the senate mark-up regarding legal redress.</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2025 17:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49580&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

She hasn&#039;t (to my reading) ruled against the NFA stuff (and I doubt she will, given all the caselaw upholding the NFA as a tax measure -- see Kostas&#039; excellent post).   

My comment was in response to your comment that &quot;BBB is having a hard time and will need 60 votes in senate.&quot;   Not so, for the reasons I set forth.   GOP will either overrule / replace the Parliamentarian, or worst case just remove the parts ruled &quot;non-germane&quot; under the Byrd Rule . . . but rest assured, there *will* be a vote on a reconciliation bill that only requires a simple majority for passage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49580">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>She hasn&#8217;t (to my reading) ruled against the NFA stuff (and I doubt she will, given all the caselaw upholding the NFA as a tax measure &#8212; see Kostas&#8217; excellent post).   </p>
<p>My comment was in response to your comment that &#8220;BBB is having a hard time and will need 60 votes in senate.&#8221;   Not so, for the reasons I set forth.   GOP will either overrule / replace the Parliamentarian, or worst case just remove the parts ruled &#8220;non-germane&#8221; under the Byrd Rule . . . but rest assured, there *will* be a vote on a reconciliation bill that only requires a simple majority for passage.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49481&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I’m seeing *zero* mention of guns in this laundry list of items nixed from the BBB by the Senate Parliamentarian.&quot;

the HPA and ‘Short Act’ did pass parliamentarian muster because they are directly tax related. Its the other stuff in the bill that causing it needing the 60 vote if they are not removed as they did not pass parliamentarian muster. But there are a few ways around this Byrd rule mess thing, so need to wait and see. 

But do they want to get around it is a question that needs to be explored. Will there be a price to pay in some way that&#039;s detrimental later? If they do get around it, they give the democrats the same reason the next time they are in control (if...)

But anyway, what ever goes on ...we still need to wait and see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49481">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m seeing *zero* mention of guns in this laundry list of items nixed from the BBB by the Senate Parliamentarian.&#8221;</p>
<p>the HPA and ‘Short Act’ did pass parliamentarian muster because they are directly tax related. Its the other stuff in the bill that causing it needing the 60 vote if they are not removed as they did not pass parliamentarian muster. But there are a few ways around this Byrd rule mess thing, so need to wait and see. </p>
<p>But do they want to get around it is a question that needs to be explored. Will there be a price to pay in some way that&#8217;s detrimental later? If they do get around it, they give the democrats the same reason the next time they are in control (if&#8230;)</p>
<p>But anyway, what ever goes on &#8230;we still need to wait and see.</p>
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		By: LKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49481&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

No.   There will be a vote on the BBB because a reconciliation bill is the only way PDT can get the permanent tax cut passed.  Count on it.

So what will happen in light of the Parliamentarian’s Byrd rulings?  One of three things:

(1)  The Senate or VP will fire the Parliamentarian (previously a Harry Reid appointee).  She serves at the pleasure of the majority of the Senate, and I have seen some commentary indicating that the VP can fire her unilaterally.
(2)  The Senate, by a simple majority, will overrule the Parliamentarian.  This is basic parliamentary procedure -  a motion to suspend the rules.  They don’t do it very often, but it can be done.
(3)  If enough RINO’s in the Senate won’t support (2) or (3), worst case will be that the provisions the Parliamentarian has ruled violate the Byrd Rule are stripped from the BBB.  The tax cuts, changes to the NFA, etc., etc., all get passed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49481">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>No.   There will be a vote on the BBB because a reconciliation bill is the only way PDT can get the permanent tax cut passed.  Count on it.</p>
<p>So what will happen in light of the Parliamentarian’s Byrd rulings?  One of three things:</p>
<p>(1)  The Senate or VP will fire the Parliamentarian (previously a Harry Reid appointee).  She serves at the pleasure of the majority of the Senate, and I have seen some commentary indicating that the VP can fire her unilaterally.<br />
(2)  The Senate, by a simple majority, will overrule the Parliamentarian.  This is basic parliamentary procedure &#8211;  a motion to suspend the rules.  They don’t do it very often, but it can be done.<br />
(3)  If enough RINO’s in the Senate won’t support (2) or (3), worst case will be that the provisions the Parliamentarian has ruled violate the Byrd Rule are stripped from the BBB.  The tax cuts, changes to the NFA, etc., etc., all get passed.</p>
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		By: Geoff PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 23:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49507&quot;&gt;uncommon_sense&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m seeing *zero* mention of guns in this laundry list of items nixed from the BBB by the Senate Parliamentarian.

And, there&#039;s *zero* crowing by the Leftist Scum (tm), which we would expect, if true :

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5365060-senate-parliamentarian-gop-bill-rejections/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49507">uncommon_sense</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m seeing *zero* mention of guns in this laundry list of items nixed from the BBB by the Senate Parliamentarian.</p>
<p>And, there&#8217;s *zero* crowing by the Leftist Scum &#8482;, which we would expect, if true :</p>
<p><a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5365060-senate-parliamentarian-gop-bill-rejections/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5365060-senate-parliamentarian-gop-bill-rejections/</a></p>
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		By: uncommon_sense		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uncommon_sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49507&quot;&gt;uncommon_sense&lt;/a&gt;.

Disregard my comment above--I read .40 cal Booger&#039;s additional details in another post which explain that the &quot;Big Beautiful Bill&quot; in its current form is more than just a budget reconciliation bill and therefore would be subject to the U.S. Senate&#039;s self-imposed 60-vote Cloture Rule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49507">uncommon_sense</a>.</p>
<p>Disregard my comment above&#8211;I read .40 cal Booger&#8217;s additional details in another post which explain that the &#8220;Big Beautiful Bill&#8221; in its current form is more than just a budget reconciliation bill and therefore would be subject to the U.S. Senate&#8217;s self-imposed 60-vote Cloture Rule.</p>
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		By: uncommon_sense		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uncommon_sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49481&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

.40 cal Booger,

I don&#039;t have time to peruse your link.  Unless it sheds additional light, my understanding is that the &quot;Big Beautiful Bill&quot; is a budget reconciliation bill and therefore does not require 60 U.S. Senators to agree to bring it to the U.S. Senate floor to vote for its passage.  (The U.S. Senate&#039;s self-imposed Cloture Rule does not apply to budget reconciliation bills.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49481">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>.40 cal Booger,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have time to peruse your link.  Unless it sheds additional light, my understanding is that the &#8220;Big Beautiful Bill&#8221; is a budget reconciliation bill and therefore does not require 60 U.S. Senators to agree to bring it to the U.S. Senate floor to vote for its passage.  (The U.S. Senate&#8217;s self-imposed Cloture Rule does not apply to budget reconciliation bills.)</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49479&quot;&gt;Geoff PR&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s good news...but it looks like the BBB is having a hard time and will need 60 votes in senate... &#062; https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1937230250242359357]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49479">Geoff PR</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s good news&#8230;but it looks like the BBB is having a hard time and will need 60 votes in senate&#8230; &gt; <a href="https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1937230250242359357" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1937230250242359357</a></p>
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		By: Geoff PR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff PR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49470&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;BREAKING NOW! ATF &#038; DEA Merger COMPLETELY SMOKED In Senate As It DOES NOT PASS Byrd Rule.&quot;

In other good news, it looks like the Senate Parliamentarian has ruled the  HPA and &#039;Short Act&#039; clear the &#039;Byrd Rule&#039; and will be included in the &#039;Big Beautiful Bill&#039;...  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/gun-control/its-always-something-there-are-two-problems-with-the-nfa-reforms-in-the-big-beautiful-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-49470">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;BREAKING NOW! ATF &amp; DEA Merger COMPLETELY SMOKED In Senate As It DOES NOT PASS Byrd Rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other good news, it looks like the Senate Parliamentarian has ruled the  HPA and &#8216;Short Act&#8217; clear the &#8216;Byrd Rule&#8217; and will be included in the &#8216;Big Beautiful Bill&#8217;&#8230;  😉</p>
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