Comments on: District Court Judge Rules Ban on Machinegun Ownership Unconstitutional Under Bruen

By: Ric-O-Shay

Ric-O-Shay — Sun, 09 Feb 2025 00:36:38 +0000

Rare and Unusual only in the sense that non-military/LE do not have access to MGs as they are expensive to acquire. Take into account how many the Military and LE have and they aren’t rare all…

By: TrollFeeder

TrollFeeder — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 17:10:08 +0000

The only reason that machineguns are rather rare at this point in history is that the government has first tried to tax them into unaffordability and then just outright banned the creation of any new ones. They are significantly less common that they should be ONLY due to the government’s past impingements, and they want to use that as an excuse to continue the policy.

They want to commit two wrongs to deny us our rights.

By: Tripp

Tripp — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 17:06:59 +0000

I would’ve had my lawyer also include all post-samples, pre-samples, all mg’s owned by We The People (i.e. paid for by our tax dollars) in the hands of the military, and federal, state, and local LE.

AND, I’d even include “illegal”, “unregistered” mg’s out there, because why not? They certainly exist and they’re so common that AFT just sent out a pearl-clutching panic email to LE and FFLs about alllll the different flavors, what they look like, and how they function.

Also point out to the court how many more mg’s there would be without unconstitutional Hughes picking an arbitrary date out of a hat, thus artificially limiting the number able to be owned for almost half a damn century now…

By: Gregory Shane Powell

Gregory Shane Powell — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 02:50:36 +0000

Wow. A judge with integrity and appointed by Obama. Will wonders never cease?

By: top secret

top secret — Fri, 07 Feb 2025 01:50:46 +0000

In reply to Penrod. Post-ban machine guns cost little more than the semiauto variants. Only a few small parts differ. At most, a few machining operations may be needed because semiautos can not be readily convertible under current regulations. If it weren't for the NFA and the Hughes Amendment every gun owner would have multiple select-fire guns and it would be perfectly normal. $200 in 1934 is $4,682 today which until recently made NFA items prohibitively expensive. I would love to buy full-auto same as any other gun.

By: Penrod

Penrod — Thu, 06 Feb 2025 20:47:30 +0000

That there are only 740,000 machine guns lawfully owned is largely a result of the, shall we say constitutionally questionable, National Firearms Act, and the 1986 ban itself on new full auto weapons for civilian ownership.

Absent those two longstanding laws there would be a lot more full auto weapons out there, and entry level examples would go back to approximate those of the semi auto versions. Rare collector’s items would still carry sky high prices, and might well go higher as more people own entry level pieces, but the entry level stuff like new M-4s and Ruger AC.556s would be little more than semi-autos.

By: 300BlackoutFan

300BlackoutFan — Thu, 06 Feb 2025 16:36:37 +0000

So:
1. As applied (only to the defendant)
2. The defendant brought up that there were 700k MGs (which is greater than the 200k stun guns in the Caetano case)
3. The ruling by the Judge only “allows” the MG “in the home”, and not “in public” (eg, a range).

Now we need a facial challenge….