I’m perfectly willing to let California go through that. Happily eager even.

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I’ve owned a house in Kona, HI for going on 20 years, now. I love the islands, and I (like most right-of-center folks I know) made a real effort to get to know the neighbors, particularly the (tiny minority – less than 2% of the population of the islands) “Hawaiian natives”. I know all about the usurpation of the Hawaiian throne, and the intentional de-emphasis on the local culture.

But the residents of Hawaii voted overwhelmingly (84%) for statehood. Now, in fairness, by the time of the statehood vote, “native” Hawaiians were already a small minority, but records suggest that a majority of them voted for it, too. I can totally understand why a native Hawaiian might resent the usurpation of Queen Liliuokalani, and the colonization of their islands by the Yankees. Given historical reality, it was a choice of that or becoming an ACTUAL British colony, because Britain wanted those islands, and at that point they had a navy that made their desire achievable.

History is more complicated than most people believe.

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Ed Zachary. As I tried to tell Chris T, the government is getting slapped down for trying to “soft censor” views it doesn’t like, so they’ve wholesale authorized their street thugs to do it. And one of the most glaring items putting the (obvious) lie to the Leftist/fascists’ contention that Trump is a wanna-be fascist is that he has expressly NOT encouraged his (ample) legion of followers to actively oppose the nonsense the Leftist/fascists are subjecting us to.

If Trump really DID ever “encourage his followers to revolt”, Leftist/fascist blood would be running deep in the gutters. But (and I say this as praise), we don’t roll that way. If the “fascist” (sic) right ever decides to throw down? Trust me, Leftist idiots, you’ll know. It won’t be pleasant, but you WILL know, without a doubt, that y’all done stepped on your last rake.

Chris T,
sel-defense
As usual, you’ve identified each individual tree in the forest, by species, and . . . missed the forest. One might almost believe you didn’t understand that the 1A applies ONLY to limit the scope of government and government action. Has exactly zero application to individual response to offensive speech.

If you were a little more discerning about what is actually happening, it would concern you more that we, as individuals, are now aggressively prosecuted for exercising our right to self-defense. Leftist/fascists are allowed to bully, impede, and even aggressively confront, right-of-center demonstrators or even those trying to video Leftist demonstrations. Thus, the government is not ALLOWED (per the 1A) to prohibit such behavior, but somehow local (Soros-funded) local authorities can re-write centuries-old jurisprudence on the right to self-defense by insisting on such idiocies as KKKalifornia’s “duty to retreat” insanity.

Government doesn’t need to legislate the worst of the Leftist/fascist’s program; they simply enable their street thugs (Antifa and Burn/Loot/Murder) to do it for them, and prosecute you for defending yourself against it.

But there is wide support for someone walking around with a str@-p on dil do Well fitted for public attire. Which they did in Austin Texas. Also walking around with large sagging e exposed beasts.

To protest against the open carry guns. The “gun community” openly supported that, but yet they argue about someone openly carrying guns in public as a former protest. Or just going about your day.

Remember the banana in your holster protest?

Yes the “gun community” is very selective about such things.

If not, then no one who is an American citizen with residence in Hawaii is an American citizen any longer for its that same Constitution that made them American citizens. So Hawaii does not get to pick-n-choose which constitutional ‘things’ it wants to allow or not ’cause we didn’t do that before we became a state’.

The worst thing to happen in this country was making it socially ok. To be rude and nasty in public. To go out of your way and seek out people and go offend them.

Prostitutes operating next to elementary schools. G@.ys attacking churches like the klan use to do. And the ACLU calls that free speech. But not open carry. That they don’t approve of.

Like I’ve said before. The “free speech freaks” will end up causing the loss of the 1st amendment.

“Having self-imposed limits on civil rights, are the best way to keep your rights from being limited. By the government.”

The very act of having to individually self-impose limits in the valid exercise of constitutional rights because the government will infring if a person does not self-impose, in and of its self is a form of government tyranny by threat.

I was stationed in Hawaii. The Japanese have pretty much taken over Hawaii. And the natives hate it.

And if Mexico takes over California, then I fully expect the cartels will do the same things to the politicians in that state that they do in Mexico. And that is to chop their heads off. And then leave them in gay bars and other businesses.

Yes, that’s what happens in Mexico now okay. If you haven’t heard about it.

Great advice, Chris.

I love that HI has been getting attention. They’ve been more anti-carry than even CA. Their desperate defense won’t work. It’s a national right, not a state right. It has already been established that the right to bear arms means the right for an individual to carry. They’re just trying to run out the clock with #resist nonsense. Get this done already.