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		By: Old Smokey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Smokey]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good one, Sig.  As the Brits would say, &quot;pull the other one, it has bells on.&quot;

It&#039;s amazing just how many M&#038;Ps are being blamed seemingly every week for negligent discharges.  And the number of police departments that are blaming pistols other than the P320 and banning it and swapping to something else is deafening -- as in, the silence is deafening.

Hey Sig, continue to blame the customer, that&#039;s a winning strategy for sure.  Not.

There&#039;s something wrong with the P320.  The flat trigger seems the most likely culprit, Sig eliminated it and it&#039;s just a fact that it makes the trigger that much easier to pull (or have it be unintentionally moved), and pretty much every other polymer gun maker uses a trigger safet, and they don&#039;t have nearly the number of issues and lawsuits that Sig has.  Perhaps there&#039;s a correlation?

But no, Sig will continue to bluster and lie and blame the consumer because their stance is their pistols have NEVER fired without the trigger being pulled.  Even when TTAG demonstrated on video that the original P320 could absolutely fire when dropped, with nobody anywhere near the trigger, Sig insisted that it wasn&#039;t true and absolutely refused to recall them to fix it, instead they again blamed the customer and claimed to offer a &quot;voluntary upgrade&quot;.  Yeah, thanks Sig, how do you say &quot;oops, our pistol is a bad design&quot; without actually saying &quot;our pistol is a bad design&quot;?  

&quot;Faultless!  Faultless, I tell you.  There has never been a problem with the P320, Never!&quot; Reminds me very much of Baghdad Bob.  I think I&#039;ll call them Baghdad Sig from now on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, Sig.  As the Brits would say, &#8220;pull the other one, it has bells on.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing just how many M&amp;Ps are being blamed seemingly every week for negligent discharges.  And the number of police departments that are blaming pistols other than the P320 and banning it and swapping to something else is deafening &#8212; as in, the silence is deafening.</p>
<p>Hey Sig, continue to blame the customer, that&#8217;s a winning strategy for sure.  Not.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something wrong with the P320.  The flat trigger seems the most likely culprit, Sig eliminated it and it&#8217;s just a fact that it makes the trigger that much easier to pull (or have it be unintentionally moved), and pretty much every other polymer gun maker uses a trigger safet, and they don&#8217;t have nearly the number of issues and lawsuits that Sig has.  Perhaps there&#8217;s a correlation?</p>
<p>But no, Sig will continue to bluster and lie and blame the consumer because their stance is their pistols have NEVER fired without the trigger being pulled.  Even when TTAG demonstrated on video that the original P320 could absolutely fire when dropped, with nobody anywhere near the trigger, Sig insisted that it wasn&#8217;t true and absolutely refused to recall them to fix it, instead they again blamed the customer and claimed to offer a &#8220;voluntary upgrade&#8221;.  Yeah, thanks Sig, how do you say &#8220;oops, our pistol is a bad design&#8221; without actually saying &#8220;our pistol is a bad design&#8221;?  </p>
<p>&#8220;Faultless!  Faultless, I tell you.  There has never been a problem with the P320, Never!&#8221; Reminds me very much of Baghdad Bob.  I think I&#8217;ll call them Baghdad Sig from now on.</p>
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		By: I Haz A Question		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Haz A Question]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/washington-state-criminal-justice-training-commission-bans-p320-pistols-from-their-ranges/comment-page-1/#comment-27245&quot;&gt;I Haz A Question&lt;/a&gt;.

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&quot;a bullet is &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; the same as a cartridge.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/washington-state-criminal-justice-training-commission-bans-p320-pistols-from-their-ranges/comment-page-1/#comment-27245">I Haz A Question</a>.</p>
<p>(edit function never works here)</p>
<p>&#8220;a bullet is <i><b>not</b></i> the same as a cartridge.&#8221;</p>
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		By: I Haz A Question		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So now an ND is being referred to as an &quot;uncommanded discharge&quot;?

Does anyone in the journalistic world realize that the precursor &quot;un&quot; means to undo or reverse from a previous state, and that &quot;non&quot; is the opposite of a related state?  So, then, an uncommanded discharge would mean it was previously commanded, or intended.  Makes no sense whatsoever.

Negligent discharge, people.  Just like a clip is not a magazine, and a bullet is the same as a cartridge, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now an ND is being referred to as an &#8220;uncommanded discharge&#8221;?</p>
<p>Does anyone in the journalistic world realize that the precursor &#8220;un&#8221; means to undo or reverse from a previous state, and that &#8220;non&#8221; is the opposite of a related state?  So, then, an uncommanded discharge would mean it was previously commanded, or intended.  Makes no sense whatsoever.</p>
<p>Negligent discharge, people.  Just like a clip is not a magazine, and a bullet is the same as a cartridge, etc.</p>
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		By: Chris T in KY		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris T in KY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sig Saur is in the process of giving Every Town the example of what a bad gun company looks like. 

If this had been Hi Point you never hear the end of the jokes.  And the criticism of that low cost gun company. 

And this is about getting and keeping a military contract. 

As I&#039;ve said before. Gun companies like Sig are the orginal military industrial complex. It&#039;s guns the left was after in the early 20th century. 

They should have issued a mandatory recall years ago. Instead, these guns will be resold to other people as used guns. And they&#039;ll be more lawsuits ten or twenty years in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sig Saur is in the process of giving Every Town the example of what a bad gun company looks like. </p>
<p>If this had been Hi Point you never hear the end of the jokes.  And the criticism of that low cost gun company. </p>
<p>And this is about getting and keeping a military contract. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before. Gun companies like Sig are the orginal military industrial complex. It&#8217;s guns the left was after in the early 20th century. </p>
<p>They should have issued a mandatory recall years ago. Instead, these guns will be resold to other people as used guns. And they&#8217;ll be more lawsuits ten or twenty years in the future.</p>
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