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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32634&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

so it didn&#039;t last long though. They ramped up production, and to keep their workers employed they started selling into the commercial market again because they were able to exceed what the government was giving them in requirement after some &#039;negotiation to get away from ALL ammo to government&#039;. And the reason for that is, actually, the LC production can&#039;t exist for long on making ammo just for the government as what the government pays for ammo is not enough to sustain the plant and workers (without a declared war, in which case the workers would be paid as though actual government employees and the government would keep the plant open). Commercial sales of their ammo is needed to keep the plant operating and workers paid and employed. This is why the contract stipulates that anything over government requirement can be sold into the commercial market by the commercial company operating the plant. But it did last long enough to raise the price on ammo and create some commercial market shortage of LC ammo - although, they were not really responsible for the overall shortage across the board as that was caused by very large quantity buyers in response to the times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32634">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>so it didn&#8217;t last long though. They ramped up production, and to keep their workers employed they started selling into the commercial market again because they were able to exceed what the government was giving them in requirement after some &#8216;negotiation to get away from ALL ammo to government&#8217;. And the reason for that is, actually, the LC production can&#8217;t exist for long on making ammo just for the government as what the government pays for ammo is not enough to sustain the plant and workers (without a declared war, in which case the workers would be paid as though actual government employees and the government would keep the plant open). Commercial sales of their ammo is needed to keep the plant operating and workers paid and employed. This is why the contract stipulates that anything over government requirement can be sold into the commercial market by the commercial company operating the plant. But it did last long enough to raise the price on ammo and create some commercial market shortage of LC ammo &#8211; although, they were not really responsible for the overall shortage across the board as that was caused by very large quantity buyers in response to the times.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32634&quot;&gt;.40 cal Booger&lt;/a&gt;.

so in reality &#039;Chris T in KY&#039; was correct as &quot;It was The brain dead Biden who stopped ammo sales to civilians, a few years ago. And that is one reason why ammo prices went up.&quot;

and as for the other thing  &#039;Chris T in KY&#039; posted: “I hope President Trump will fire the government workers responsible, for termination of civilian sales of ammunition“

We already did that, we voted Biden out of office - we fired him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32634">.40 cal Booger</a>.</p>
<p>so in reality &#8216;Chris T in KY&#8217; was correct as &#8220;It was The brain dead Biden who stopped ammo sales to civilians, a few years ago. And that is one reason why ammo prices went up.&#8221;</p>
<p>and as for the other thing  &#8216;Chris T in KY&#8217; posted: “I hope President Trump will fire the government workers responsible, for termination of civilian sales of ammunition“</p>
<p>We already did that, we voted Biden out of office &#8211; we fired him.</p>
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		By: .40 cal Booger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[.40 cal Booger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32625&quot;&gt;Miner49er&lt;/a&gt;.

actually Lake City did terminate commercial sales of Ammo. They just didn&#039;t cancel the commercial contracts or change their commercial distribution policies and they were not ordered to stop production of commercial ammunition. But that&#039; until you discover the context

How it happened: Biden admin directed all their ammo production to be directed to &#039;government/military&#039; (and a lot went to Ukraine) - here&#039;s the thing, when the facility is able to produce more ammo than the government requires, they sell it either to consumers or distributors in the commercial market - it doesn&#039;t actually produce ammo specifically for the civilian commercial market but rather for the government and what goes to the commercial market is ammo the government doesn&#039;t take for their requirements. But Biden ordered that ALL of their ammo go to &#039;government/military&#039; thus there was no ammo more than what the government required. So in effect, due to Biden admin actions, there was a de facto ban on sales of Lake City ammo to the commercial market. 

I got this from the Lake City folks right at the factory. My brother and I went to pick up a lot of ammo, 50,000 rounds, we had purchased as one of their &#039;preferred buyers&#039;. When we arrived we were told this was going to be the last we could buy for a while from Lake City because of Bidens actions (see above). At first when this news came out we were concerned that we would not be able to pick up the ammo we had already paid, but called our contact and he said our ammo wasn&#039;t affected so we went to get it and bought it home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32625">Miner49er</a>.</p>
<p>actually Lake City did terminate commercial sales of Ammo. They just didn&#8217;t cancel the commercial contracts or change their commercial distribution policies and they were not ordered to stop production of commercial ammunition. But that&#8217; until you discover the context</p>
<p>How it happened: Biden admin directed all their ammo production to be directed to &#8216;government/military&#8217; (and a lot went to Ukraine) &#8211; here&#8217;s the thing, when the facility is able to produce more ammo than the government requires, they sell it either to consumers or distributors in the commercial market &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t actually produce ammo specifically for the civilian commercial market but rather for the government and what goes to the commercial market is ammo the government doesn&#8217;t take for their requirements. But Biden ordered that ALL of their ammo go to &#8216;government/military&#8217; thus there was no ammo more than what the government required. So in effect, due to Biden admin actions, there was a de facto ban on sales of Lake City ammo to the commercial market. </p>
<p>I got this from the Lake City folks right at the factory. My brother and I went to pick up a lot of ammo, 50,000 rounds, we had purchased as one of their &#8216;preferred buyers&#8217;. When we arrived we were told this was going to be the last we could buy for a while from Lake City because of Bidens actions (see above). At first when this news came out we were concerned that we would not be able to pick up the ammo we had already paid, but called our contact and he said our ammo wasn&#8217;t affected so we went to get it and bought it home.</p>
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		By: Miner49er		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miner49er]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32620&quot;&gt;Chris T in KY&lt;/a&gt;.

“I hope President Trump will fire the government workers responsible, for termination of civilian sales of ammunition“

Yeah, Trump has been in office for three months and he hasn’t done a thing to end the ban…

That’s because there never was a ‘Biden ban’ on ammunition sales from Lake City, that was just right wing propaganda that fooled you and many other MAGA folks.

“In this case, the rumor is false. Lake City has NOT been ordered to stop production of commercial ammunition. Lake City has NOT canceled their commercial contracts or stopped sales. Why are prices on certain calibers suddenly up? Because people are panic buying and there’s money to be made. If you look back prior to the attack on Israel and the Lake City rumor, prices on firearms and ammunition were down and warehouses were full. Sales had not only slowed but were becoming stagnant in the firearms industry.“

https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/lake-city-false-rumors/485050

Yep, once again you were snookered by a slick NYC con artist and his cronies, milking profits from the gullible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/speed-kills-except-when-it-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-32620">Chris T in KY</a>.</p>
<p>“I hope President Trump will fire the government workers responsible, for termination of civilian sales of ammunition“</p>
<p>Yeah, Trump has been in office for three months and he hasn’t done a thing to end the ban…</p>
<p>That’s because there never was a ‘Biden ban’ on ammunition sales from Lake City, that was just right wing propaganda that fooled you and many other MAGA folks.</p>
<p>“In this case, the rumor is false. Lake City has NOT been ordered to stop production of commercial ammunition. Lake City has NOT canceled their commercial contracts or stopped sales. Why are prices on certain calibers suddenly up? Because people are panic buying and there’s money to be made. If you look back prior to the attack on Israel and the Lake City rumor, prices on firearms and ammunition were down and warehouses were full. Sales had not only slowed but were becoming stagnant in the firearms industry.“</p>
<p><a href="https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/lake-city-false-rumors/485050" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/lake-city-false-rumors/485050</a></p>
<p>Yep, once again you were snookered by a slick NYC con artist and his cronies, milking profits from the gullible.</p>
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		By: Chris T in KY		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope President Trump will fire the government workers responsible, for termination of civilian sales of ammunition. From government run ammo plants. 

It was The brain dead Biden who stopped ammo sales to civilians, a few years ago. And that is one reason why ammo prices went up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope President Trump will fire the government workers responsible, for termination of civilian sales of ammunition. From government run ammo plants. </p>
<p>It was The brain dead Biden who stopped ammo sales to civilians, a few years ago. And that is one reason why ammo prices went up.</p>
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