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	Comments on: Monkey Business and the SIG P320 Pistol	</title>
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		By: Sam I Am		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam I Am]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 17:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, there&#039;s this (from a reliable source):
https://grayguns.com/news/a-personal-message-from-bruce-gray-and-the-entire-grayguns-team/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ady7f3clA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s this (from a reliable source):<br />
<a href="https://grayguns.com/news/a-personal-message-from-bruce-gray-and-the-entire-grayguns-team/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://grayguns.com/news/a-personal-message-from-bruce-gray-and-the-entire-grayguns-team/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ady7f3clA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ady7f3clA</a></p>
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		By: P320watcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P320watcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26850&quot;&gt;P320watcher&lt;/a&gt;.

When I said &quot; So if the kid got his finger in and just pushed on the side of the flat SIG trigger, . &quot; it&#039;s supposed to say &quot;flat SIG trigger, BAM.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26850">P320watcher</a>.</p>
<p>When I said &#8221; So if the kid got his finger in and just pushed on the side of the flat SIG trigger, . &#8221; it&#8217;s supposed to say &#8220;flat SIG trigger, BAM.&#8221;</p>
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		By: P320watcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P320watcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 16:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, back on topic:

Why is it always about the P320?  Why does it seem like every unintentional discharge we hear about always seem to feature a P320?  Is there something actually different about the P320?  And why does SIG insist that it&#039;s safe, in the face of all the incidents?

I think the answer is pretty damn simple.  There IS something different about the P320, while at the same time SIG&#039;s correct in that the trigger MUST be pulled (at least in the newest ones, the original certainly didn&#039;t need the trigger pulled).

How can these both be true?

Simple: SIG decided to do away with the trigger safety.  Pretty much every competitor has it, for good reasons, but SIG decided to do away with it.  And the lack of a trigger safety is the reason P320s are much much more likely to cause a negligent/unintentional discharge.

Prime example: we had a case reported here recently where a little kid got his finger through a gap in an officer&#039;s holster and pulled the trigger.  On the P320, it resulted in a discharge.  On any other trigger-safetied pistol, it probably wouldn&#039;t have.  With the SIG, any force on the trigger causes it to move.  On a trigger safety pistol, you have to push the trigger safety in, and then the trigger will move.  So if the kid got his finger in and just pushed on the side of the flat SIG trigger, .  If he tried the exact same thing on a Glock, no bam.  He&#039;d have to get his finger deeply inside the holster to where he could firmly depress the trigger safety and then the trigger.  Possible?  Maybe.  But safer than the SIG design? Hell yes.

Same with any other unintentional trigger pull: drawstring in your pocket, keys in your pocket, a pen in your pocket, gripping the pistol wrong, anything can happen at any time, but on the trigger safety pistols there&#039;s at least a mechanism present to make it much harder to unintentionally move that trigger.  On the SIG, there&#039;s nothing.  

Think about it: while the P320 is indeed popular, there&#039;s got to be hundreds of millions of non-P320&#039;s out there, but every time we hear about this issue it&#039;s always a P320.  And the P320 is different.  That difference makes the difference, and SIG is guilty of a bad design and an inherent flaw.  They HAVE to fight it, they have to make outlandish statements like this press release, because if they acknowledge the defect then they&#039;re screwed so incredibly hard that they&#039;ll probably be bankrupted by the backlast, recalls, and lawsuits.  SIG screwed up.  And they&#039;re taking the worst way out they can - by lying about it instead of manning up, issuing a recall, and replacing that stupid flat trigger with the ubiquitous trigger safety.

So SIG, here&#039;s what you face: you can recall all the P320s out there (and not the offensively stupid &quot;voluntary upgrade&quot; either!) and replace your stupid flat trigger with a safe one, and lose a lot of money... OR, you can bluster, bloviate, lie, pressure, threaten, and argue to try to hide your defective design and lose ALL of your money to lawsuits.  Your choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, back on topic:</p>
<p>Why is it always about the P320?  Why does it seem like every unintentional discharge we hear about always seem to feature a P320?  Is there something actually different about the P320?  And why does SIG insist that it&#8217;s safe, in the face of all the incidents?</p>
<p>I think the answer is pretty damn simple.  There IS something different about the P320, while at the same time SIG&#8217;s correct in that the trigger MUST be pulled (at least in the newest ones, the original certainly didn&#8217;t need the trigger pulled).</p>
<p>How can these both be true?</p>
<p>Simple: SIG decided to do away with the trigger safety.  Pretty much every competitor has it, for good reasons, but SIG decided to do away with it.  And the lack of a trigger safety is the reason P320s are much much more likely to cause a negligent/unintentional discharge.</p>
<p>Prime example: we had a case reported here recently where a little kid got his finger through a gap in an officer&#8217;s holster and pulled the trigger.  On the P320, it resulted in a discharge.  On any other trigger-safetied pistol, it probably wouldn&#8217;t have.  With the SIG, any force on the trigger causes it to move.  On a trigger safety pistol, you have to push the trigger safety in, and then the trigger will move.  So if the kid got his finger in and just pushed on the side of the flat SIG trigger, .  If he tried the exact same thing on a Glock, no bam.  He&#8217;d have to get his finger deeply inside the holster to where he could firmly depress the trigger safety and then the trigger.  Possible?  Maybe.  But safer than the SIG design? Hell yes.</p>
<p>Same with any other unintentional trigger pull: drawstring in your pocket, keys in your pocket, a pen in your pocket, gripping the pistol wrong, anything can happen at any time, but on the trigger safety pistols there&#8217;s at least a mechanism present to make it much harder to unintentionally move that trigger.  On the SIG, there&#8217;s nothing.  </p>
<p>Think about it: while the P320 is indeed popular, there&#8217;s got to be hundreds of millions of non-P320&#8217;s out there, but every time we hear about this issue it&#8217;s always a P320.  And the P320 is different.  That difference makes the difference, and SIG is guilty of a bad design and an inherent flaw.  They HAVE to fight it, they have to make outlandish statements like this press release, because if they acknowledge the defect then they&#8217;re screwed so incredibly hard that they&#8217;ll probably be bankrupted by the backlast, recalls, and lawsuits.  SIG screwed up.  And they&#8217;re taking the worst way out they can &#8211; by lying about it instead of manning up, issuing a recall, and replacing that stupid flat trigger with the ubiquitous trigger safety.</p>
<p>So SIG, here&#8217;s what you face: you can recall all the P320s out there (and not the offensively stupid &#8220;voluntary upgrade&#8221; either!) and replace your stupid flat trigger with a safe one, and lose a lot of money&#8230; OR, you can bluster, bloviate, lie, pressure, threaten, and argue to try to hide your defective design and lose ALL of your money to lawsuits.  Your choice.</p>
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		By: Rodney L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodney L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 03:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26713&quot;&gt;Missy12&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Remember when he said I can grab em by the pussy because I’m rich and famous.&quot;

Being elected POTUS twice proved he was 1,000 percent *correct*.

And that&#039;s President Bone-spurs to you, dingbat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26713">Missy12</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Remember when he said I can grab em by the pussy because I’m rich and famous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Being elected POTUS twice proved he was 1,000 percent *correct*.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s President Bone-spurs to you, dingbat.</p>
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		By: Missy12		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missy12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 16:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26665&quot;&gt;Leftiesloveit&lt;/a&gt;.

You just described republicans.  Try not to forget your boy private bone spurs is a serial adulterer and has been convicted of sexual abuse.  Remember when he said I can grab em by the pussy because I&#039;m rich and famous. Both dems and repubs can&#039;t keep it in their pants. You&#039;re an idiot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26665">Leftiesloveit</a>.</p>
<p>You just described republicans.  Try not to forget your boy private bone spurs is a serial adulterer and has been convicted of sexual abuse.  Remember when he said I can grab em by the pussy because I&#8217;m rich and famous. Both dems and repubs can&#8217;t keep it in their pants. You&#8217;re an idiot.</p>
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		By: Hush		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26684&quot;&gt;Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

A yahoo news piece ask how long will the Trump administration blame Biden/Harris?
The gall/nerve of these people after all the years of blaming Trump for everything they can conjure up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26684">Dude</a>.</p>
<p>A yahoo news piece ask how long will the Trump administration blame Biden/Harris?<br />
The gall/nerve of these people after all the years of blaming Trump for everything they can conjure up!</p>
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		By: Dude		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26665&quot;&gt;Leftiesloveit&lt;/a&gt;.

RFK Jr. also had a reputation as a womanizer.

I&#039;m old enough to remember when Democrats mocked people for being shocked about Bill Clinton&#039;s affair with an intern in the Oval Office. Then Trump came along, and they lost their minds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging.shootingnewsweekly.com/business/monkey-business-and-the-sig-p320-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-26665">Leftiesloveit</a>.</p>
<p>RFK Jr. also had a reputation as a womanizer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m old enough to remember when Democrats mocked people for being shocked about Bill Clinton&#8217;s affair with an intern in the Oval Office. Then Trump came along, and they lost their minds.</p>
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		By: Leftiesloveit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leftiesloveit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 12:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait, why would that tank his career? The left loves womanizers. Clinton, Cuomo, Murphy, Newsom, all the Kennedys except RFK Jr. etc....
All their heroes are white, affluent, entitled, smarmy men who sleep around like skanky soap opera characters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, why would that tank his career? The left loves womanizers. Clinton, Cuomo, Murphy, Newsom, all the Kennedys except RFK Jr. etc&#8230;.<br />
All their heroes are white, affluent, entitled, smarmy men who sleep around like skanky soap opera characters.</p>
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